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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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Chris O'Brien is on special assignment

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this week we called in Jay Randall

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Murphy known as usual suspect in our

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forums

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Randall welcome back but before we go on

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for those who wonder the change used to

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call yourself ufology in the forums and

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then you said one day can I be usual

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suspect why is that well what was

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happening was that there was a number of

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subjects besides ufology that I would be

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commenting on and I often found myself

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in hot water with people getting into

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debates pro and con and you know at some

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point I thought you know just to just to

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round things out I should change my

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profile so that it would apply to more

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of the discussions I was getting myself

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involved in and kind of have sort of a

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tongue-in-cheek feel to it as well so

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I'm kind of the usual suspect too as the

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mo of being sometimes a bit of a stir up

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of controversy well we'll certainly stir

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up some now last week we had Daniel

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lists better known as the dark

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journalists on the power cast and he got

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into Vike for about a segment so

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political talk and then those of you who

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heard after the power cast which is part

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powerful gas plus we had more of it

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there I shut down most of it as many of

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our listeners know because I don't want

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partisan political discussions except

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insofar as it covers our paranormal

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universe and I think our listeners kind

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of prefer that if they want a political

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discussion there are plenty of talk

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shows that do that you know we'll talk

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about well what presidents might know

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with regard to UFOs

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we once had a discussion about a book

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called the president's vampire alright

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and then I think there was a movie about

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Lincoln being a vampire killer handle

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yeah that was pretty entertaining kind

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of a dumb movie though right yeah

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sometimes you just want to let go of all

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of your critical thinking and just be

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entertained let it go in one ear and out

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the other chew on some popcorn

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there's nothing wrong with that I

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thought the last row was absolutely

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fabulous was list on and you know you

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brought it back to the paranormal and

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ufology by when you were mentioning

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Hilary's interest in UFOs and her

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connection with Podesta which you know

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that really tied it back and brought it

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back into the show and and that was

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really good but she did know when she

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appeared on one of the late-night TV

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shows to refer to UFOs as you APs so she

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obviously had kept up with the

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scuttlebutt

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maybe privately she does read a lot

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about the subject but she would not

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admit that on the other hand we have no

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idea what Donald Trump might think about

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it because nobody has thought to ask him

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hey Hillary Clinton wanted to look into

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UFOs what do you think that would be a

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question that would be worth asking for

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anyone all right so any journalists out

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there who are this thing to the power

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cast and understand our interests the

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fact that we've talked about presidents

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and UFOs in the past as Trump let's see

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what he says

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what do you think he would say oh gee I

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from it or he'd say something kind of

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wacky or because he's unpredictable he

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might say something absolutely totally

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positive on the subject yeah yeah that's

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true he is very unpredictable so I mean

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he could say oh that's a complete waste

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of my time or he could say something oh

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that's what that crazy Hillary was into

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and you know what I think of her or he

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could he could say well we should look

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trying to say well he didn't mean it

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that way he was just trying to be

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friendly of course he would refer to

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raising Hillary as crooked Hillary you

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so many discussions about UFOs and MUFON

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everything to go into a totally

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different direction so I got a letter

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maybe a week ago from Joshua Black who's

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a PhD candidate from Canada and you're

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into Joshua grief dreams is that where

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you dream of your long-lost loved one

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yes that's part of the the definition

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that I'm investigating explain it more

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though is there anything about this

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where there's a perception that they

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might be in communication with their

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loved one who was passed on oh yeah like

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that that's something that I hear all

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the time but if we I guess go back to

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what Creve dreams is and how people

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label it there's many names

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it goes by and you go by bereavement

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draining with dreams after loss dreams

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of deceased visitation dreams which is

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what you're talking about but all these

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all these themes are what people are

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talking about is your have a dream after

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the loss and so there's three types of

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dreams that people can have and I'll

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share them so the first one is when the

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deceased isn't mentioned or even present

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so these are the dreams that more

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reflect your grief so here maybe like a

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mountain falls on you it could reflect

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the heaviness of your grief or maybe

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you're searching for something which

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reflect you you know like you lost

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these dreams that have people talking

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about the deceased or there's monuments

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or something that resembled a deceased

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maybe like where they maybe passed away

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like a hospital so this is like the

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second type and sometimes in this one

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they're okay and then the last one this

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is what most people want to talk about

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and share and know more information on

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is when deceased is actually present in

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the dream and so it can be in human form

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in non-human form so I've seen one where

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it's a cloud and the cloud talks to the

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individual and they know it's they know

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brother and our listeners know my late

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you can look him up on Google because he

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was well-known in the health care

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industry I have a dream where he's just

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part of it we're basically having a

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normal dream and suddenly you know I'm

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the routine he's alive he's part of our

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normal life is that considered a grief

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dream yeah if it's he's deceased so that

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would be a grief dream how much of it

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represents your waking grief is you know

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it's hard to determine it's just based

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on your understanding of that and since

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it's more of he's just a character in

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the background it probably doesn't have

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much to do with your your grief

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after loss and so some of my research is

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finding it's usually one-on-one that

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that they have these images with people

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that have passed on and I think that's

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a grief Journal of someone's what

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more dream characters start to appear

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and more deceased relatives are to

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appear but in the beginning of the loss

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it's usually one-on-one and so if you're

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if it's just like the characters in the

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dream there's a lot of other stuff going

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on it probably doesn't reflect much of

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your grief but it's probably a lot of

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people say it's nice to see them again

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in this case it's weird because my

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of him that much not being rude or

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anything it's just that you accept the

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fact that he's gone and so we have these

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is that part of the same thing yeah I'd

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say like it's it's interesting to just

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talk about the top like the subject

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because there's not a lot of information

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very surprising and when I started this

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journey I was basically left to my own

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devices because there's really nothing

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talking about it's something that

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probably should been analyzed and looked

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at you know 40 years ago but they just

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really haven't so but what I've heard so

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a lot of this a lot of my understanding

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is from stories people tell and my own

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experiences and I think there's people

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say there's a really a big difference in

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the dream quality as like what they call

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it a visitation or not but what you're

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talking about they're part of a dream

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we have Joshua black talking about grief

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dreams and their significance with gene

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about grief dreams here were you dream

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about a loved one family member who's no

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longer here with Joshua black who was a

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PhD candidate Joshua before we get

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further into the discussion of all the

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things one could be in looking for a PhD

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why this subject good question it wasn't

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on my to-do list when I was growing up I

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wasn't in school saying you know what I

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want to be well I want to be a

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researcher on these great dreams no what

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happened was I was in undergrad and I

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actually wanted to be a elementary

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school teacher so that was my path and

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then my father passed away

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and my second last year and that changed

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changed a lot for me for basically my

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understanding of grief since he was the

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first one that I really cared for the

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passed away and the power of these

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dreams can have after loss and so what

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happened was you know he passed away

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very suddenly I was actually waiting for

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him and he never showed up for to take

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me to a hockey game and so I get a call

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about three days later saying he was

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found dead is in his place I was

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heartbroken to say the least and

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you know just the emotion that just came

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out of that I just really have had a

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hard time processing it and so I

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wouldn't write I was in school so you

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just go back to school you try to go

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back to your routine and I still wasn't

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feeling myself you know you put on a

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happy face you do your thing

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but then as I moved forward about three

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months later I had a dream and he was a

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part of it and I'll talk to share the

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dream so I was sitting in my in my room

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so I'm dreaming so I'm sit in my room

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and everything my room's the same detail

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as it was in waking life and at that

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time my room was pretty cluttered so

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it's amazing for all the images to be

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accurate I saw my dad at the at the end

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of my room and he was looking through

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some of my clutter and then he turned

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around smiling and I I walked up to him

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and I said I'm going to miss you

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acknowledging the loss I said I loved

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them and I hugged him and I woke up and

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fascinating thing was when I woke up I

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felt different than prior and so

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something changed in that moment and

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looking back I sort of think that I had

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a block because I never got a chance to

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say goodbye and that gave me that

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experience and from then on I always

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valued these dreams and I had a series

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of dreams on how they changed and how

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they stopped focusing on my grief per se

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but other things in my life so I was

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done school I didn't really know what to

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do you know with my education so you try

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to work you do things and so I

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volunteered with the brief because I

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liked helping people and they start

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talking with these dreams it brought

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back all the dreams I had and so the

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interesting thing is when I had these

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dreams and I've really told anyone I

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just sort of kept in private and so when

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these people started talking about the

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subject I was very curious about it so I

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went to the literature and there wasn't

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anything there to help them so I had a

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choice either I just sit back and say

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hopefully they do the research or you

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know do the legwork yourself and do the

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research and so the way life works is

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where I was living in the university

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Trent University there was a woman who

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actually did research on dreams so I

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spoke with her and she was excited about

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the topic and that's how it all sort of

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came about and then when I was in my ma

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that's when I really understood this

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topic what the needs were of the

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bereaved and what the challenges that

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they're facing

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is really interesting I kind of like to

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sort of tie this in with the theme of

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the para cast as well if I could ask you

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a question do you think to these sorts

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of subjective experiences with realistic

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imagery can be misinterpreted so that

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the characters are interpreted as

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objectively real rather than as a

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psychological manifestation so you're

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saying like if the I think the

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visitations are not no what I'm saying

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is that when people see something in a

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setting that looks like it's real to

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them for example we have people that say

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they they wake up and they're still

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seeing images from their dream world

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while they're in their waking State I'm

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sure you've run across that in your

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studies and so if you've got a situation

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where in your dream you're already in a

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situation that looks to you to be pretty

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much identical to what's objectively

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real outside do you think that people

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could confuse those two things and then

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use that to draw the conclusion that

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well there really are people who are

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separate objective entities that have

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gone on and passed over to some other

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reality so if if I hear you correctly so

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when the dream imagery is very real in

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the sense of what would be in waking

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life how does that how would the mind

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sort of interpret that so what's very

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interesting is in most dreams we don't

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really know that they're not real until

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we wake up and so in the moment usually

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unless you're lucid everything seems

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real and so I don't think that changes a

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lot but I think what happens is there's

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a feeling that comes about in the dream

482
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that maybe is different than a normal

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dream and and when that occurs I think

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people will start seeing it a certain

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way when they talk about sort of

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visitations or afterlife or spirits and

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that is sort of probably a similar

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feeling they get when they see that in

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waking life if it's a spirit or

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something in front of them there's a

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feeling I think that you get that breaks

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your idea of what reality may be okay so

493
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do you personally believe that there is

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some sort of afterlife or are you

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looking at this from a purely

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psychological perspective yes oh well a

497
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good question I would say I do believe

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in the afterlife is just part of sort of

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who I am

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it's hard to investigate that with you

501
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know the scientific method so I'm

502
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looking at more a psychological research

503
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study to really I think shed some light

504
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on this because I as we sort of we'll

505
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talk about the issues that come about

506
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from this from people like who think all

507
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these dreams or visitations who think

508
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these rooms are hauntings to people who

509
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don't think any of these or visitations

510
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how it can block and actually impede the

511
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process of those who are grieving so in

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my own life yeah it's like I definitely

513
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believe the first one with the one I

514
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have my father was a visitation and I

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think that helps me as I move forward in

516
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this topic to really I think understand

517
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the topic in a new level not all my

518
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dreams I would say with my father or a

519
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visitation but there are certain ones

520
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that have a really distinct feel to them

521
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that it's hard to really sort top like

522
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really explain but they're just they're

523
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very different and you hear a lot of

524
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people have these experiences and what

525
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I'm finding though is that even if you

526
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don't believe that they're visitations

527
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and you had these dreams and it's just

528
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nice to see them again because maybe the

529
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last time you saw in their jaundiced or

530
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they're unwell in some way or they're

531
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dead in an open casket you see them

532
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healthy and happy talking even that

533
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experience can actually help people

534
00:22:05,970 --> 00:22:03,429
through the grieving process and unblock

535
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a lot of things which is I think a lot

536
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of people think oh I got a for the

537
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visitation then then it'll help me

538
00:22:14,669 --> 00:22:11,889
actually I think the opposite I think

539
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that it that may be true but also just

540
00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:16,239
having these dreams in general can

541
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actually affect you whatever your belief

542
00:22:24,389 --> 00:22:21,369
system I think the big question here is

543
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do you feel that there's an connection

544
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with these dreams and some kind of

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external reality such as the afterlife

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which you express a belief in we'll have

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more in a moment we have Joshua black

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we're talking about grief dreams and

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654
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this is the wrong player co-author of

655
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the UFO on Cyclopes in other books

656
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so we continue with this discussion and

657
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we learned that guess what I've had

658
00:27:25,090 --> 00:27:23,780
dreams of this nature but just coming

659
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back to this and certainly as an

660
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academic it's hard to get scientists to

661
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look at something like life after death

662
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and after life so do you at all feel

663
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personally that when people think of

664
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being visited by a deceased loved one

665
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that there's some reality behind it that

666
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maybe that individual is contacting them

667
00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:50,059
yeah I can't deny it and I said if we

668
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can't study it scientifically doesn't

669
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mean it's not true it just means we

670
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can't study it as I said as long as the

671
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person who had the experience finds it a

672
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positive and comforting experience Who

673
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am I to say and you know if it's helping

674
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them in their process and helping them

675
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through their journey like I have

676
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nothing against that at all so you know

677
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I think that's why I can come in and do

678
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the topic I think justice because I you

679
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know like I don't mind them saying now

680
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it's not there's no negative negative

681
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reality for them to believe that it's

682
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only when they think it's a negative

683
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haunting then I sort of educate him on

684
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dream research and I don't you want me

685
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to go into that on what that can

686
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actually represent in your grieving

687
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process

688
00:28:39,789 --> 00:28:37,160
well what about supposed hauntings yes

689
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take us to that well this is the thing

690
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when it comes to dreams so just dream

691
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research in general a lot of her dreams

692
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in in general are are negative in nature

693
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so the average most people have more

694
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negative dreams and positive dreams and

695
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what they're finding is that your waking

696
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life actually has a big impact in the

697
00:29:00,970 --> 00:28:56,809
dreams you have and so it's called the

698
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continuity hypothesis and so after loss

699
00:29:05,169 --> 00:29:02,990
or any after trauma or anything your

700
00:29:06,820 --> 00:29:05,179
dreams become even more negative so

701
00:29:09,370 --> 00:29:06,830
anything that's going on your life is

702
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actually manipulating your dream imagery

703
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so after loss you would expect your

704
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dreams to be negative and if the disease

705
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is present that's something you would

706
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expect so it's probably something to do

707
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with the at your actually grief and

708
00:29:24,730 --> 00:29:23,179
block so you've had and I can share a

709
00:29:27,220 --> 00:29:24,740
ton of different dreams that I've

710
00:29:28,820 --> 00:29:27,230
collected and had talks with people but

711
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:28,830
negative dreams they had and how

712
00:29:36,019 --> 00:29:32,730
relates to usually anger of the death or

713
00:29:37,730 --> 00:29:36,029
feelings of guilt stuff like that and so

714
00:29:39,649 --> 00:29:37,740
I think that's a good way to process

715
00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:39,659
rather than say it's a haunting and you

716
00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:41,580
know they're attacking me let's actually

717
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,980
look at your grief and maybe that is the

718
00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:45,600
reason why it's happening and what I'm

719
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:46,980
finding my research is people who have

720
00:29:51,950 --> 00:29:49,380
these negative dreams of loved ones also

721
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:51,960
I tend to have positive dreams later on

722
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so I think the bigger question is you

723
00:29:58,669 --> 00:29:56,070
know why are these negative dreams going

724
00:30:00,830 --> 00:29:58,679
on because most dreams people have of

725
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,840
the loved ones are positive in nature so

726
00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:02,880
it I would always bring people back to

727
00:30:06,379 --> 00:30:04,830
their grief and if it's an issue with

728
00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:06,389
their grief - let's talk about that

729
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:07,980
let's get that sorted out so these

730
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:11,850
dreams become more positive okay so we

731
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:15,360
can't really as you say study after

732
00:30:21,740 --> 00:30:18,450
lives from a scientific perspective for

733
00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:21,750
lack of physical material evidence but

734
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:23,070
we can certainly look at it from a

735
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:25,200
critical thinking perspective and you

736
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:27,090
can decide what's logical or more

737
00:30:33,139 --> 00:30:28,710
logical and what's more likely to make

738
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,149
sense than other things so me personally

739
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:36,480
after reflecting quite extensively and

740
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that I've I'm of the belief that after

741
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:41,850
lives are impossible and the way that

742
00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:44,490
people normally think of them but at the

743
00:30:50,330 --> 00:30:47,100
same time like Jean like yourself I've

744
00:30:52,669 --> 00:30:50,340
also had loss and I've had the kind of

745
00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:52,679
dreams actually exactly like you're

746
00:30:58,940 --> 00:30:55,559
describing but there's one type of dream

747
00:31:02,450 --> 00:30:58,950
that is a particular interest to me here

748
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:02,460
and that's sort of Premanand reams of

749
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:06,210
deaths that happen later yeah like like

750
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:10,610
I had one where my one of my relatives

751
00:31:17,539 --> 00:31:13,710
was meeting me to go to a funeral home

752
00:31:19,970 --> 00:31:17,549
to attend to my mother's death and she

753
00:31:22,879 --> 00:31:19,980
was alive and relatively healthy at the

754
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:22,889
time and people that showed up were

755
00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:24,210
actually already dead they were

756
00:31:28,129 --> 00:31:25,980
grandparents and members of the family

757
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:28,139
who were had already been deceased and

758
00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:30,570
they picked her up and took her away in

759
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:33,240
the old family car and I remember waving

760
00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:34,710
goodbye to them all as they drove over

761
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:37,350
the hill and I thought that is the

762
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:40,200
weirdest dream and about two years later

763
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:43,410
my mom she got really second and she

764
00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:45,840
died and the same person who was in that

765
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:47,640
dream came to pick me up and we had to

766
00:31:51,890 --> 00:31:49,650
manage her estate and off she went into

767
00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:51,900
the you know for lack of a better term

768
00:31:58,220 --> 00:31:56,520
that afterlife with her mom and dad and

769
00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:58,230
the old family pet

770
00:32:04,790 --> 00:32:01,380
what about dreams that are premon Ettore

771
00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:04,800
and that sort of yeah this is very

772
00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:06,150
interesting this is something I didn't

773
00:32:10,910 --> 00:32:08,070
know much about until I got into the

774
00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:10,920
topic and once I started asking about

775
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:13,260
these dreams like that comes up so it

776
00:32:18,410 --> 00:32:15,750
actually is common to for people to have

777
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,420
these dreams prior to the person dying

778
00:32:22,370 --> 00:32:20,640
and it just makes me sit with the

779
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:22,380
reality of life you know like the

780
00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:24,330
mystery of life because you know it's

781
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:26,100
how do you explain that like you know I

782
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:27,810
still don't know but I know what's

783
00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:30,330
happening as a scientist I all I can do

784
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:32,340
is say yeah this is occurring and that's

785
00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:34,350
really as far as I can go as I sort of

786
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:37,230
ponder like what that means for reality

787
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:38,880
in this life but I've heard yeah I've

788
00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:41,090
heard stuff like that where people will

789
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:44,220
dream of the deceased loved one yours

790
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:46,350
was two years I had people I was like

791
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:49,290
the day before they had no contact with

792
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:50,610
the person they even know they were sick

793
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:53,010
or anything they have a dream the person

794
00:32:57,620 --> 00:32:55,170
says goodbye or that they love them and

795
00:32:59,660 --> 00:32:57,630
they woke up like thinking it was weird

796
00:33:01,220 --> 00:32:59,670
and and some people felt that the person

797
00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:01,230
must have passed away then they get a

798
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:03,990
phone call that day saying that the

799
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:05,460
person died that's what's fascinating

800
00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:07,770
about this topic is that there's so much

801
00:33:12,770 --> 00:33:10,470
mystery behind it and I like that and I

802
00:33:15,140 --> 00:33:12,780
think a lot of people try to get too

803
00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:15,150
bogged down with science they run their

804
00:33:19,610 --> 00:33:17,430
lives through it they sort of push away

805
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:19,620
that mystery aspect of life and I think

806
00:33:23,090 --> 00:33:20,730
it there's something beautiful about

807
00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:23,100
staying in the mysteries and these

808
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:25,740
dreams these precognitive dreams is one

809
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:27,810
of those things and so like precognitive

810
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:29,310
dreams have been you know and all sorts

811
00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:31,170
of like religions and even one of my

812
00:33:34,340 --> 00:33:32,460
committee members at Trent University

813
00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:34,350
wrote a book called heads-up dreaming

814
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:36,360
all about that and he looked at that

815
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:38,730
from a scientific perspective and he

816
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:40,650
found evidence of that people are doing

817
00:33:44,150 --> 00:33:42,510
this stuff and it's happening just we

818
00:33:45,530 --> 00:33:44,160
can't really explain it I think quantum

819
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:45,540
physics I don't know much about it but I

820
00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:48,530
hear it might help understand it a bit

821
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:51,030
but at the end the day if people have

822
00:33:54,050 --> 00:33:52,890
these dreams I'm always interested in

823
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:54,060
knowing if it's comforting

824
00:33:58,220 --> 00:33:56,850
that they had it it's usually some

825
00:34:00,170 --> 00:33:58,230
people say it is other people say it's

826
00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:00,180
it was just you know it's mind-boggling

827
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:03,660
how it even happened but the the the one

828
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:05,100
thing I should note is that there are

829
00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:07,770
people that will have a dream of the

830
00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:10,550
person may be in trouble or dying and

831
00:34:17,150 --> 00:34:13,800
they wake up thinking it's precognitive

832
00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:17,160
and the poor Ali that's usually not and

833
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:19,350
so it's I think it's a different quality

834
00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:20,910
to these dreams that are precognitive

835
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:25,140
and you may agree or disagree but a lot

836
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:26,760
of people if the person's sick already

837
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:28,890
they'll have anticipatory grief dreams

838
00:34:33,350 --> 00:34:31,710
which could be similar where the person

839
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:33,360
is dying but they don't actually you

840
00:34:36,650 --> 00:34:34,410
know they're not actually dead when they

841
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:36,660
wake up and it could just be reflective

842
00:34:41,060 --> 00:34:38,490
of their grief and understand that they

843
00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:41,070
will die soon I think that's a really

844
00:34:48,410 --> 00:34:44,300
good way to describe it an anticipatory

845
00:34:50,540 --> 00:34:48,420
grief dream now that's a very neutral

846
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:50,550
way of saying well these things happen

847
00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:53,220
and we're not exactly entirely sure why

848
00:34:56,870 --> 00:34:54,990
in every case but that makes a lot of

849
00:34:59,390 --> 00:34:56,880
sense actually what's that movie the

850
00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:59,400
monsters call it's about an anticipatory

851
00:35:03,980 --> 00:35:01,800
grief dream basically the whole movie so

852
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:03,990
it's it's out there and like the you

853
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:05,610
know media has you know picked it up a

854
00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:07,710
little bit but just the bereavement

855
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counselors and those people who are in

856
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:11,820
charge just haven't really like received

857
00:35:15,350 --> 00:35:13,890
education on this topic yet and that's

858
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sort of the big thing that I'm trying to

859
00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:18,120
do by doing these interviews and doing

860
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the conferences and stuff and publishing

861
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:21,060
the research is getting people start

862
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,770
talking about this and allowing and

863
00:35:25,610 --> 00:35:24,480
asking the questions because a lot of

864
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:25,620
people carry this stuff and they've no

865
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one to talk to and when they do talk to

866
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someone they usually are giving bad

867
00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:31,680
advice what's some of the bad advice

868
00:35:39,590 --> 00:35:36,420
people are typically given so one of

869
00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:39,600
them I just I have a group trans

870
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Facebook group and so I always you know

871
00:35:46,940 --> 00:35:44,190
when people post their dreams and

872
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sometimes they want answers or

873
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reflections on the dream imagery and so

874
00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:50,490
but there's a lot people in the group so

875
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they all sort of you know write stuff

876
00:35:57,650 --> 00:35:55,310
and one person had a dream and it was

877
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there's a bunch of deceased relatives

878
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:00,720
around a table so she asked me what does

879
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this mean and so one of the group

880
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,140
members I don't think she was the person

881
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was being you know intended to harm

882
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anyone she

883
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said oh I heard you know when when

884
00:36:13,799 --> 00:36:12,250
there's a bunch of deceased relatives in

885
00:36:16,980 --> 00:36:13,809
a dream I mean someone close to you is

886
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:16,990
gonna die and then she's like all and

887
00:36:21,569 --> 00:36:19,569
the other the dreamer says oh I have a

888
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grandmother that's 90 you know it's

889
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probably her and then the other woman's

890
00:36:29,450 --> 00:36:27,309
like yeah that's probably right let's

891
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continue with this in our next segment

892
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more to come with Joshua black grief

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dreams and their implications an

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talking about a dream here I guess

1005
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involving a group of deceased people

1006
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that may be precursor for someone dying

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soon with Joshua Black and the subject

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is grief dreams the afterlife and that

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sort of thing

1010
00:41:38,350 --> 00:41:35,270
Jamie Randall Murphy is our guest

1011
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:38,360
co-host Joshua so yeah so then what

1012
00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:41,210
happened was the woman which is very

1013
00:41:44,890 --> 00:41:43,430
interesting she then goes what happens

1014
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:44,900
if it's not my grandma what happens if

1015
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it's me and so now she started to

1016
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fearing her own death and so this is

1017
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:51,170
what the bad advice and then the person

1018
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was not you know the the person was

1019
00:41:55,690 --> 00:41:54,380
really like trying to encourage her that

1020
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:55,700
it's someone else that someone's gonna

1021
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die

1022
00:42:00,849 --> 00:41:59,270
she became you know distant and not

1023
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:00,859
answering anymore so when she asked me

1024
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:02,570
that's something I was I was going to do

1025
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:05,330
anyways and what I told her is that in

1026
00:42:09,730 --> 00:42:08,330
my research actually of the dream

1027
00:42:12,580 --> 00:42:09,740
journal the woman actually started

1028
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:12,590
having more deceased relatives as she

1029
00:42:16,330 --> 00:42:14,570
started to heal I said that's actually a

1030
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:16,340
probably sign of healing I have anything

1031
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:18,560
else and so she was really happy with

1032
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:20,090
that and she felt relieved and she also

1033
00:42:23,650 --> 00:42:21,710
felt like think comforted by the fact

1034
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:23,660
that you know she was healing in her

1035
00:42:28,780 --> 00:42:25,640
grief too so this one type of like bad

1036
00:42:31,330 --> 00:42:28,790
advice another one be sometimes mediums

1037
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:31,340
they'll say different things on maybe

1038
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:32,690
why you're not dreaming of the deceased

1039
00:42:37,450 --> 00:42:35,570
and they'll say all sorts of different

1040
00:42:39,550 --> 00:42:37,460
things which isn't backed by research at

1041
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:39,560
all but one of the comments is that

1042
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:42,050
they're not coming to you because if

1043
00:42:46,420 --> 00:42:44,690
they do they'll open up your grief too

1044
00:42:49,330 --> 00:42:46,430
much and you'll just want more so they

1045
00:42:51,580 --> 00:42:49,340
decide not to do it I I heard that one a

1046
00:42:53,590 --> 00:42:51,590
couple times and I always look at that

1047
00:42:54,579 --> 00:42:53,600
very interesting because okay like maybe

1048
00:42:56,979 --> 00:42:54,589
after the first

1049
00:42:59,079 --> 00:42:56,989
but if the spirit hasn't actually came

1050
00:43:01,150 --> 00:42:59,089
the first time that's kind of weird

1051
00:43:02,769 --> 00:43:01,160
because that's all the what I'm finding

1052
00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:02,779
is most people that want these dreams

1053
00:43:08,109 --> 00:43:05,960
want to be reassured that the person

1054
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:08,119
crossed over they want to know that

1055
00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:10,249
they're still loved which is sort of the

1056
00:43:15,249 --> 00:43:13,190
two big things and so one dream can sort

1057
00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:15,259
of heal all those things and unblock

1058
00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:16,700
some of those stuff that they're working

1059
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with

1060
00:43:20,859 --> 00:43:19,130
so one dream would actually help them

1061
00:43:22,959 --> 00:43:20,869
more than actually harm them yeah they

1062
00:43:25,329 --> 00:43:22,969
may cry and in the beginning but it's

1063
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,339
actually beneficial that's actually you

1064
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:27,440
know pretty bad advice because they're

1065
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saying you have to work on your grief

1066
00:43:31,630 --> 00:43:30,109
before you get these dreams where

1067
00:43:34,329 --> 00:43:31,640
actually that's why I actually start

1068
00:43:35,950 --> 00:43:34,339
doing the PhD is because that was my

1069
00:43:37,269 --> 00:43:35,960
first question is why are we why are

1070
00:43:39,549 --> 00:43:37,279
some people having these dreams and

1071
00:43:41,019 --> 00:43:39,559
other people aren't and what I can tell

1072
00:43:43,959 --> 00:43:41,029
you is it's because the more dream

1073
00:43:45,219 --> 00:43:43,969
recall so more people remember their

1074
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:45,229
dreams and the more people are

1075
00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:47,630
remembering these types of dreams and so

1076
00:43:53,229 --> 00:43:49,640
it may not actually be sort of you know

1077
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:53,239
that they're not coming it's probably

1078
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:54,319
because you're just not remembering your

1079
00:43:57,819 --> 00:43:56,450
dreams in general and I think that's a

1080
00:43:59,079 --> 00:43:57,829
better way to approach the topic and

1081
00:44:01,180 --> 00:43:59,089
there's different ways to increase dream

1082
00:44:03,249 --> 00:44:01,190
recall as you move forward keeping a

1083
00:44:04,809 --> 00:44:03,259
dream journal is a good one

1084
00:44:06,249 --> 00:44:04,819
talking about your dreams a lot all

1085
00:44:08,109 --> 00:44:06,259
dreams aren't that just the ones you

1086
00:44:10,269 --> 00:44:08,119
want with that you're probably gonna be

1087
00:44:12,370 --> 00:44:10,279
dreaming or remembering more of the

1088
00:44:14,019 --> 00:44:12,380
dream and so I bring this up because a

1089
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:14,029
lot of people my theory is that a lot of

1090
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:15,710
people are probably dreaming of their

1091
00:44:19,539 --> 00:44:18,319
loved one and producing those images but

1092
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:19,549
they're not just you're not remembering

1093
00:44:24,430 --> 00:44:22,670
it when they're waking up that makes a

1094
00:44:27,009 --> 00:44:24,440
lot of sense and it seems like a really

1095
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:27,019
good way to go about it the course the

1096
00:44:32,170 --> 00:44:30,529
other problem with the type of thinking

1097
00:44:34,029 --> 00:44:32,180
that you described there is that it

1098
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:34,039
presupposes that there is an afterlife

1099
00:44:40,209 --> 00:44:36,890
and there there are people on the other

1100
00:44:42,759 --> 00:44:40,219
side who have the intent of some sort of

1101
00:44:45,279 --> 00:44:42,769
intent of their own that is going to

1102
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:45,289
have an impact on your life and so

1103
00:44:51,789 --> 00:44:47,390
instead of looking within to see if you

1104
00:44:55,059 --> 00:44:51,799
can find solutions there it sort of

1105
00:44:58,299 --> 00:44:55,069
offloads it on to a belief that is

1106
00:45:00,459 --> 00:44:58,309
wholly unsubstantiated really yeah and

1107
00:45:01,749 --> 00:45:00,469
you know like also go further too with

1108
00:45:03,339 --> 00:45:01,759
some other bad advice not just from

1109
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:03,349
mediums and stuff but also from doctors

1110
00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:07,089
I had someone tell me that a doctor

1111
00:45:10,739 --> 00:45:08,200
they were having these dreams of the

1112
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:10,749
ceased and the doctor said oh it's

1113
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:12,880
because your medication and so they

1114
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:14,950
basically reflect deflected it and say

1115
00:45:18,509 --> 00:45:16,569
it's because of medication and so they

1116
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:18,519
actually minimized what they thought

1117
00:45:22,859 --> 00:45:20,609
these dreams this dream was to them and

1118
00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:22,869
that actually will harm them because

1119
00:45:25,769 --> 00:45:24,190
they thought it would meant something

1120
00:45:28,829 --> 00:45:25,779
and it was something beautiful to them

1121
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:28,839
and I'll also go also to pastors there's

1122
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:32,079
some pastors who will say these dreams

1123
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:33,910
are meaningful that some of these dreams

1124
00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:35,890
are from God other ones will say it's

1125
00:45:40,229 --> 00:45:38,440
Satan and it's a trick and that sort of

1126
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:40,239
stuff and so what I'm saying is bad

1127
00:45:44,130 --> 00:45:41,950
advice is you have to understand what

1128
00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:44,140
the person believes to understand what

1129
00:45:47,969 --> 00:45:46,390
advice you're giving so if someone who

1130
00:45:50,099 --> 00:45:47,979
has a comforting dream the person says

1131
00:45:52,019 --> 00:45:50,109
they love them they're okay and there

1132
00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:52,029
was Jesus or something and you tell them

1133
00:45:55,979 --> 00:45:54,190
that was Satan well all that benefit

1134
00:45:58,529 --> 00:45:55,989
that would have came from that dream you

1135
00:46:00,180 --> 00:45:58,539
have now actually crushed and now

1136
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:00,190
they're afraid to sleep because they're

1137
00:46:04,019 --> 00:46:02,319
thinking maybe Satan's coming and

1138
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,029
tricking them so that's what I'm saying

1139
00:46:07,289 --> 00:46:05,680
like there's so many people just cuz the

1140
00:46:09,089 --> 00:46:07,299
education isn't out there some people

1141
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:09,099
giving bad advice in different areas and

1142
00:46:12,809 --> 00:46:11,650
it's really - really I think help people

1143
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:12,819
you have to understand what they first

1144
00:46:18,839 --> 00:46:15,609
believe and then work with that so can

1145
00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:18,849
we say here that the dream is meant to

1146
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:20,910
reinforce their beliefs whatever it is

1147
00:46:24,749 --> 00:46:23,170
yeah like for the most part that's what

1148
00:46:27,450 --> 00:46:24,759
I see so if people are dreaming with

1149
00:46:29,849 --> 00:46:27,460
this like I see dreams where there's I

1150
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:29,859
say an individual description they'll

1151
00:46:32,819 --> 00:46:31,210
have a dream and sometimes they'll be

1152
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:32,829
angels with them sometimes they'll be

1153
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:34,690
talking about meeting Jesus sometimes

1154
00:46:40,049 --> 00:46:37,390
Jesus actually is in the imagery and so

1155
00:46:43,049 --> 00:46:40,059
I think you know what your your belief

1156
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:43,059
is definitely will come into the dream a

1157
00:46:45,269 --> 00:46:43,599
lot

1158
00:46:47,370 --> 00:46:45,279
what's fasting about these dreams so

1159
00:46:48,959 --> 00:46:47,380
some people who have them will believe

1160
00:46:51,150 --> 00:46:48,969
that this and they would say they are

1161
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:51,160
atheist I didn't believe in anything

1162
00:46:55,170 --> 00:46:53,440
they'll have this dream of the deceased

1163
00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:55,180
that just very overpowering and

1164
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:57,369
emotional they wake up and then now they

1165
00:47:01,170 --> 00:46:59,680
feel like that was a visitation but you

1166
00:47:02,609 --> 00:47:01,180
didn't believe in before and now they're

1167
00:47:05,339 --> 00:47:02,619
actually trying to find a religion to

1168
00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:05,349
help understand what the afterlife is so

1169
00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:07,420
I think these dreams can actually not

1170
00:47:12,839 --> 00:47:10,420
only reflect our waking life but they

1171
00:47:14,910 --> 00:47:12,849
can also produce change and our waking

1172
00:47:17,969 --> 00:47:14,920
life depending on the feeling that you

1173
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:17,979
get okay so they can be transformative

1174
00:47:22,769 --> 00:47:20,049
there's no doubt about that but

1175
00:47:24,359 --> 00:47:22,779
I think it depends on your point of view

1176
00:47:27,390 --> 00:47:24,369
as to whether or not a you know a

1177
00:47:30,839 --> 00:47:27,400
transformative experience that turns

1178
00:47:34,469 --> 00:47:30,849
someone religious is necessarily good so

1179
00:47:36,809 --> 00:47:34,479
I mean do we what such experiences are

1180
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:36,819
good just because it makes the patient

1181
00:47:42,419 --> 00:47:39,130
feel good yeah

1182
00:47:45,179 --> 00:47:42,429
with grief it usually it's unblocking

1183
00:47:46,589 --> 00:47:45,189
something and if they go to religion

1184
00:47:48,209 --> 00:47:46,599
like I'm not here to debate religions

1185
00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:48,219
good or not but what I'm saying is that

1186
00:47:52,769 --> 00:47:51,369
that dream of the person having that and

1187
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:52,779
believe that there's an afterlife then

1188
00:47:57,209 --> 00:47:55,119
wants to quantify it and try to figure

1189
00:47:58,559 --> 00:47:57,219
out what an afterlife is and so they go

1190
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,569
to religions guess what religions sort

1191
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:00,640
of talk about these afterlife so it's

1192
00:48:05,099 --> 00:48:02,890
more about their transformative but like

1193
00:48:08,009 --> 00:48:05,109
the belief is that there is an afterlife

1194
00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:08,019
I think that belief can help people as

1195
00:48:12,569 --> 00:48:10,630
you move forward in loss it's not as

1196
00:48:14,219 --> 00:48:12,579
permanent and they still feel loved

1197
00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:14,229
which is one of those things that grief

1198
00:48:17,939 --> 00:48:16,420
is a is really working with is how do

1199
00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:17,949
you still feel loved when the person

1200
00:48:21,779 --> 00:48:19,900
physically isn't there to give it to you

1201
00:48:22,739 --> 00:48:21,789
anymore there's nothing wrong I think I

1202
00:48:26,489 --> 00:48:22,749
don't think there's anything wrong with

1203
00:48:30,179 --> 00:48:26,499
that and so when if these dreams help

1204
00:48:31,469 --> 00:48:30,189
promote a positive transformation when

1205
00:48:33,269 --> 00:48:31,479
it comes to grief I think it's

1206
00:48:34,829 --> 00:48:33,279
beneficial it's only one that's negative

1207
00:48:36,569 --> 00:48:34,839
or if you're condemning yourself for

1208
00:48:37,949 --> 00:48:36,579
something then that you know you're

1209
00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:37,959
complicating your grief it's gonna take

1210
00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:40,390
longer for you to actually I think get

1211
00:48:45,419 --> 00:48:43,140
back into the world and share your love

1212
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:45,429
right but I think you just kind of hand

1213
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:47,920
waved a question there in that there are

1214
00:48:52,529 --> 00:48:50,170
people who think that becoming involved

1215
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:52,539
in religion isn't the best thing to

1216
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:54,249
become involved in for a variety of

1217
00:48:59,249 --> 00:48:57,249
really substantiative reasons so

1218
00:49:00,479 --> 00:48:59,259
therefore just saying well it's okay if

1219
00:49:03,029 --> 00:49:00,489
it makes you feel good I think that's

1220
00:49:04,919 --> 00:49:03,039
really a bit of a hand wave I don't

1221
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,929
think so because everyone had like I'm

1222
00:49:08,819 --> 00:49:06,640
not here to debate religion if it's good

1223
00:49:10,469 --> 00:49:08,829
or not I'm just here as I had what's

1224
00:49:11,849 --> 00:49:10,479
exactly yet you're saying that if it

1225
00:49:14,669 --> 00:49:11,859
makes you feel good it's okay don't

1226
00:49:18,269 --> 00:49:14,679
debate it well on the other hand if

1227
00:49:19,919 --> 00:49:18,279
something else you think is sort of

1228
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:19,929
negative then you say will you give your

1229
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:21,369
advice that you think it's negative and

1230
00:49:25,169 --> 00:49:23,170
you shouldn't do it so and I think

1231
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:25,179
that's really qualifies as a hand wave

1232
00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:29,170
there well okay so this is my more maybe

1233
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:32,080
question if the your religion

1234
00:49:35,550 --> 00:49:33,730
actually helps you open your heart to

1235
00:49:37,860 --> 00:49:35,560
the world and to yourself and to others

1236
00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:37,870
around you and then that's a positive

1237
00:49:42,690 --> 00:49:41,080
sort of group for you to be a part of if

1238
00:49:44,010 --> 00:49:42,700
it closes your heart then it's not and

1239
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:44,020
so same thing with the dreams if it

1240
00:49:48,780 --> 00:49:45,520
helps you open your heart to the world

1241
00:49:51,810 --> 00:49:48,790
and life itself then it's good like how

1242
00:49:53,220 --> 00:49:51,820
can not be and if it closes you up to

1243
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:53,230
the world and others then it's a

1244
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:54,490
negative thing so if that's something

1245
00:50:00,570 --> 00:49:58,480
more what you're looking for I don't

1246
00:50:03,180 --> 00:50:00,580
know I would think that at least from a

1247
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:03,190
scientific perspective or at least any

1248
00:50:06,210 --> 00:50:04,600
attempt at science what we should be

1249
00:50:10,290 --> 00:50:06,220
looking for is the truth and what not

1250
00:50:12,810 --> 00:50:10,300
makes us feel good you know it's if you

1251
00:50:14,610 --> 00:50:12,820
get what I'm saying it's not about well

1252
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:14,620
this I believe this and it feels good

1253
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,200
and therefore it's real I think we

1254
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:18,880
should be looking for explanations and

1255
00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:20,260
makes sense where other than what makes

1256
00:50:24,660 --> 00:50:21,660
us feel good

1257
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:24,670
yeah that's it's your opinion as I said

1258
00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:26,320
it's about like for me and about it's

1259
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:27,880
about how did you open your heart to

1260
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:29,680
life now how do you open out your heart

1261
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:32,410
to yourself because life it doesn't

1262
00:50:38,010 --> 00:50:34,930
matter what you believe if your

1263
00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:38,020
perspective and your and how you see the

1264
00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:39,580
world is negative you're just gonna be

1265
00:50:44,510 --> 00:50:42,430
doing a lot of injustice to yourself you

1266
00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:44,520
can be living and appropriately to

1267
00:50:50,220 --> 00:50:47,700
benefit you know having happiness and

1268
00:50:52,020 --> 00:50:50,230
helping others and that's what I see

1269
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:52,030
life is about is about learning how to

1270
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:53,410
love yourself and learning how to love

1271
00:50:59,010 --> 00:50:55,630
the world and religions you know have a

1272
00:51:00,540 --> 00:50:59,020
part in that and if taken by a certain

1273
00:51:02,850 --> 00:51:00,550
perspective it can really help you and

1274
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:02,860
if people you know use it in a more

1275
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:05,650
negative and fear-based it's not gonna

1276
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:07,210
help you and so the same thing with

1277
00:51:10,830 --> 00:51:09,190
youth dreams like if if you see these

1278
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:10,840
dreams as something that could be

1279
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:13,750
beneficial for you if it helped you

1280
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:15,910
believe more in afterlife that's not an

1281
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:18,490
issue and I said we can't test if

1282
00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:20,050
there's an afterlife so we're left with

1283
00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:23,160
what is it doing towards you as a person

1284
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:25,990
let's ask those questions our next

1285
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:27,910
segment more to come with Joshua black

1286
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:30,610
and Jean and Randall you're in the pear

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00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:38,820
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questions posed by the belief or

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expectation of an afterlife Joshua black

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you were saying yeah they were

1347
00:54:25,770 --> 00:54:23,740
justifying belief and feel-good

1348
00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:25,780
psychology is what it sounded like to me

1349
00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:27,550
what's up feel-good psychology it's just

1350
00:54:32,550 --> 00:54:31,120
understanding what makes you be the most

1351
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,560
productive citizen in this world and

1352
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:34,960
that is when you can love yourself and

1353
00:54:38,250 --> 00:54:37,420
love the world around you and that you

1354
00:54:39,660 --> 00:54:38,260
know you could I don't know if you

1355
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:39,670
wanted to beat that because I don't

1356
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:42,370
think there that's debatable I think you

1357
00:54:46,980 --> 00:54:45,040
know and religion tries to help out in

1358
00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:46,990
different ways and I think these dreams

1359
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:49,110
in itself if they're helping the person

1360
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:52,960
believe in something more whether it be

1361
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:54,520
an afterlife whether it be that they're

1362
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:57,250
there say yeah if that's your belief and

1363
00:55:01,110 --> 00:54:59,170
it's a loving approach right it's

1364
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:01,120
they're not it's not a haunting it's

1365
00:55:05,730 --> 00:55:03,730
it's more of a comforting message that

1366
00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:05,740
they're okay that they love them that's

1367
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:07,390
what I'm talking about about love and

1368
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:10,960
griefs about learning to love without

1369
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:13,450
the person in front of you there to tell

1370
00:55:17,310 --> 00:55:16,330
you that you're lovable and so you have

1371
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:17,320
that but you also have those other

1372
00:55:22,350 --> 00:55:19,090
dreams where it's just nice to see them

1373
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:22,360
one more time in a positive way and that

1374
00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:25,510
is also a good thing because I see the

1375
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,860
change in people from from this and you

1376
00:55:37,820 --> 00:55:31,680
know what we'll actually share a dream

1377
00:55:42,180 --> 00:55:37,830
that that I got from an individual and

1378
00:55:44,610 --> 00:55:42,190
so the individual what happened is his

1379
00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:44,620
friend passed away and he thought that

1380
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:48,790
his friend was you know was happy and

1381
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,850
then his friend commit suicide and it

1382
00:55:56,370 --> 00:55:54,160
really broke him and what happened was

1383
00:55:58,740 --> 00:55:56,380
he was just he's devastated for two

1384
00:56:01,770 --> 00:55:58,750
years he started drinking started doing

1385
00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:01,780
drugs and if it wasn't for his wife he

1386
00:56:06,350 --> 00:56:04,030
actually probably would've had suicide

1387
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:06,360
himself he was just down and out and

1388
00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:09,310
then he one night he had this dream

1389
00:56:15,150 --> 00:56:12,550
and in the dream he was back in

1390
00:56:18,330 --> 00:56:15,160
elementary school and he was looking

1391
00:56:20,370 --> 00:56:18,340
around and everywhere he was a young age

1392
00:56:23,070 --> 00:56:20,380
everyone else around was was young back

1393
00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:23,080
then but then he realized he was in the

1394
00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:25,480
classroom that his friend may also be

1395
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:26,950
there too and so he was looking around

1396
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:29,530
for him and then he sat down and right

1397
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:32,530
behind him was his friend and his friend

1398
00:56:35,850 --> 00:56:33,970
gave him a thumbs up and he was smiling

1399
00:56:39,150 --> 00:56:35,860
and he was the age he was when he passed

1400
00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:39,160
away and so in like an individual woke

1401
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:41,950
up and he said that dream changed his

1402
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:43,450
life after that he actually quit

1403
00:56:47,420 --> 00:56:45,490
drinking quit drugs and his relation

1404
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:47,430
with his wife became much stronger and

1405
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:50,530
for whatever reason whatever happened in

1406
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:53,170
that dream actually saved him and helped

1407
00:56:54,990 --> 00:56:54,610
him a lot and so this what I'm talking

1408
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:55,000
about

1409
00:57:00,330 --> 00:56:58,330
how powerful these dreams can be and for

1410
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:00,340
me to say that this was a visitation

1411
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:02,890
wasn't or whatnot I don't think it means

1412
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:05,710
anything is it helping the person really

1413
00:57:10,410 --> 00:57:07,690
is it really helping you as you move

1414
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:10,420
forward in life to you know get back to

1415
00:57:16,170 --> 00:57:13,750
loving life again and if that's yes well

1416
00:57:18,690 --> 00:57:16,180
then who might say that's wrong that's

1417
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:18,700
actually what we're all I think going

1418
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:21,130
towards is how do we you know live

1419
00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:22,720
better in this world and live with

1420
00:57:26,910 --> 00:57:25,660
others more peacefully the thing I'm

1421
00:57:32,340 --> 00:57:26,920
wondering about here and listening to

1422
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:32,350
you is if the dream has a reality to it

1423
00:57:38,130 --> 00:57:34,810
it leads you to a proper decision is

1424
00:57:41,340 --> 00:57:38,140
that your subconscious giving you some

1425
00:57:43,350 --> 00:57:41,350
support or is it an external force and I

1426
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:43,360
think that's the big mystery if there's

1427
00:57:48,090 --> 00:57:45,370
an external force involved are you

1428
00:57:51,620 --> 00:57:48,100
somehow subconsciously in contact with

1429
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:51,630
it and is that force the afterlife a

1430
00:57:56,550 --> 00:57:55,330
universal consciousness what I don't

1431
00:57:58,620 --> 00:57:56,560
know and I think that's the question

1432
00:58:00,420 --> 00:57:58,630
that's something I can't answer through

1433
00:58:02,490 --> 00:58:00,430
the research all I can do is sort of

1434
00:58:05,250 --> 00:58:02,500
look at these dreams from a scientific

1435
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:05,260
perspective as what themes are occurring

1436
00:58:08,810 --> 00:58:06,610
how many people actually having these

1437
00:58:11,010 --> 00:58:08,820
dreams is it making you feel better

1438
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:11,020
helping your grief as you move forward

1439
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:13,330
why are people having positive versus

1440
00:58:17,850 --> 00:58:15,010
negative themes that's really what I can

1441
00:58:20,070 --> 00:58:17,860
test for and help understand what

1442
00:58:22,109 --> 00:58:20,080
actually is going on you'd probably have

1443
00:58:23,999 --> 00:58:22,119
to find out like more you know

1444
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:24,009
Oh science look at the brain what's

1445
00:58:28,589 --> 00:58:25,930
going on in there when these dreams

1446
00:58:29,789 --> 00:58:28,599
occur but who knows maybe in like ten

1447
00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:29,799
years we're gonna figure that question

1448
00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:32,049
out I think that's a really reasonable

1449
00:58:38,940 --> 00:58:34,950
point of view I mean if you sort of

1450
00:58:42,029 --> 00:58:38,950
demystify there's a whole thing and look

1451
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:42,039
at it from as objective at position as

1452
00:58:46,259 --> 00:58:44,890
possible then what you're saying makes

1453
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:46,269
quite a bit of sense I mean you're

1454
00:58:50,609 --> 00:58:47,890
talking to someone who you know like I

1455
00:58:53,220 --> 00:58:50,619
said I I don't believe after lives are

1456
00:58:57,509 --> 00:58:53,230
possible but in the dream that I had

1457
00:59:01,620 --> 00:58:57,519
with my dad it was very real and in

1458
00:59:05,089 --> 00:59:01,630
terms of my subjective experience it was

1459
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:05,099
like having him there when I woke up I

1460
00:59:12,539 --> 00:59:08,079
felt as though I had actually gone to

1461
00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:12,549
visit with him and you know I know in my

1462
00:59:17,069 --> 00:59:13,990
own mind that that's not what happened

1463
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:17,079
but your brain thinks the imagery and

1464
00:59:20,130 --> 00:59:18,640
what's happening to you in dream is

1465
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:20,140
really it doesn't really know the

1466
00:59:24,109 --> 00:59:21,490
difference when you're dreaming at the

1467
00:59:27,539 --> 00:59:24,119
time and that releases chemicals

1468
00:59:29,789 --> 00:59:27,549
oxytocin and serotonin and other things

1469
00:59:33,299 --> 00:59:29,799
that give you that sense of well-being

1470
00:59:35,579 --> 00:59:33,309
and when that happens and it makes a

1471
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:35,589
person feel better I mean it made me

1472
00:59:41,549 --> 00:59:38,079
feel much better about things for for

1473
00:59:44,370 --> 00:59:41,559
quite a while so I can see how these

1474
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:44,380
transformative experiences can take

1475
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:47,650
place on a biological level without the

1476
00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:49,690
necessity of having to believe in an

1477
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:51,849
afterlife yeah and that's what I've been

1478
00:59:55,769 --> 00:59:53,410
saying like it doesn't really matter

1479
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:55,779
like if you believe it that's great I'm

1480
00:59:59,700 --> 00:59:58,480
not here to sort of disprove that what

1481
01:00:02,029 --> 00:59:59,710
I'm here to say is like this is what's

1482
01:00:04,289 --> 01:00:02,039
going on and for people who are already

1483
01:00:06,450 --> 01:00:04,299
religious or spiritual these dreams can

1484
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:06,460
affect them this way when they're not it

1485
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:08,529
can still have benefits as you said to

1486
01:00:12,930 --> 01:00:10,390
yourself like it was a nice dream and

1487
01:00:15,089 --> 01:00:12,940
you woke up and it wasn't it didn't like

1488
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:15,099
derail you at all and you said probably

1489
01:00:18,569 --> 01:00:16,690
maybe even helped you a little bit and a

1490
01:00:19,019 --> 01:00:18,579
lot of these dreams can and that's what

1491
01:00:20,849 --> 01:00:19,029
I'm saying

1492
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,859
oh it doesn't matter like so my research

1493
01:00:24,210 --> 01:00:22,720
is showing it doesn't matter if you're

1494
01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:24,220
religious or not you're still having

1495
01:00:31,019 --> 01:00:26,470
these dreams and so it's not a factor

1496
01:00:34,499 --> 01:00:31,029
and you know so one of the numbers over

1497
01:00:35,970 --> 01:00:34,509
85% of people in my one study actually

1498
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:35,980
within the first year had a dream of the

1499
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:39,250
deceased and so a large amount of people

1500
01:00:43,770 --> 01:00:42,310
who lose their loved ones or actually

1501
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:43,780
will have a dream at some point in their

1502
01:00:48,540 --> 01:00:45,910
grief journey I think that's amazing and

1503
01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:48,550
it doesn't just happen for adults it

1504
01:00:52,109 --> 01:00:50,350
happens for kids will also dream of

1505
01:00:53,730 --> 01:00:52,119
their loved ones it also happens if you

1506
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:53,740
lose a pet you can dream with a pet and

1507
01:00:58,620 --> 01:00:55,450
also miscarriages I just finished a

1508
01:01:00,780 --> 01:00:58,630
study with that and you can dream of the

1509
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:00,790
the pregnancy again or you can also

1510
01:01:05,010 --> 01:01:02,530
dream of the baby in different ways

1511
01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:05,020
positive or negative and some of it

1512
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:06,520
could be reassuring other ones can be

1513
01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:08,290
more negative so just interesting the

1514
01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:10,390
really whatever like all the different

1515
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:11,830
deaths and our attachments we have with

1516
01:01:16,020 --> 01:01:14,530
people in one way or another there it's

1517
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:16,030
possible for us to actually have these

1518
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:17,440
experiences continue have these

1519
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:19,690
experiences with seem again in our

1520
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:22,810
dreams I still have an issue though when

1521
01:01:28,770 --> 01:01:25,119
you say it doesn't matter if it

1522
01:01:32,910 --> 01:01:28,780
reinforces beliefs that are basically

1523
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:32,920
nonsense well a problem with that I have

1524
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:34,960
no idea because I have no idea why you

1525
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:36,850
you what's it like you don't believe in

1526
01:01:41,010 --> 01:01:38,410
afterlife and that's fine like I'm not

1527
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:41,020
here to sort of debate you on if an

1528
01:01:44,730 --> 01:01:42,400
afterlife is real I could really care

1529
01:01:47,609 --> 01:01:44,740
less tell you the truth but I'm talking

1530
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:47,619
about the person yeah Joshua excuse me

1531
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:50,770
you could care less if an afterlife is

1532
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:53,200
real why is it care less if he believes

1533
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:55,330
that the naps life is real okay yeah

1534
01:01:59,730 --> 01:01:57,810
yeah for myself right it's different and

1535
01:02:02,250 --> 01:01:59,740
like that's why I'm saying we're all

1536
01:02:04,050 --> 01:02:02,260
individual people trying to figure out

1537
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:04,060
this world because at the end that this

1538
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:06,130
could just be a real big dream you know

1539
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:07,510
like I don't know if this is even

1540
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:09,670
reality because everything that happens

1541
01:02:12,990 --> 01:02:12,609
in a dream world can also happen in this

1542
01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:13,000
world

1543
01:02:17,130 --> 01:02:15,369
so you've probably heard of that many

1544
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:17,140
times where like how do we know this is

1545
01:02:21,210 --> 01:02:18,730
even real how do you know that this is

1546
01:02:24,210 --> 01:02:21,220
not a dream that we're in we don't but

1547
01:02:26,670 --> 01:02:24,220
what I can do is for myself as I think

1548
01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:26,680
I'm an entity in this world as myself

1549
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:29,740
what can I do to benefit my life and so

1550
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:31,810
if I want to believe in something when

1551
01:02:37,410 --> 01:02:34,570
it comes to religion that helps me love

1552
01:02:40,349 --> 01:02:37,420
myself more helps me love others more

1553
01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:40,359
and helps me actually do good for this

1554
01:02:47,609 --> 01:02:42,910
world you know like that's my own

1555
01:02:49,470 --> 01:02:47,619
personal thing and for for Randall if he

1556
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:49,480
doesn't want to well that's okay like

1557
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:49,690
I'm

1558
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:51,910
here to say you have to or an afterlife

1559
01:02:57,450 --> 01:02:53,530
Srila something like I don't really care

1560
01:03:00,180 --> 01:02:57,460
it's like whatever you need to do to see

1561
01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:00,190
yourself as loveable to love the people

1562
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,320
around you and help them and support

1563
01:03:06,510 --> 01:03:04,720
them in our community you know that

1564
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:06,520
that's good you need to believe in an

1565
01:03:08,730 --> 01:03:08,110
afterlife to love yourself that's all

1566
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:08,740
I'm saying

1567
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:11,050
so when I talk about these you know bad

1568
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:12,880
advice when it comes to grief dreams

1569
01:03:16,290 --> 01:03:14,650
that's what I'm saying is you have to

1570
01:03:17,730 --> 01:03:16,300
allow people to believe whatever they

1571
01:03:20,610 --> 01:03:17,740
need to believe and work with that

1572
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:20,620
belief because if you try to hold them a

1573
01:03:23,490 --> 01:03:22,210
different way you're not gonna get

1574
01:03:25,770 --> 01:03:23,500
anywhere with them you're not gonna help

1575
01:03:28,050 --> 01:03:25,780
them so you you figure out what they

1576
01:03:29,730 --> 01:03:28,060
believe in whatever if it's religion if

1577
01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:29,740
it's not and you work with their grief

1578
01:03:35,610 --> 01:03:32,860
in that way we're exploring Reif dreams

1579
01:03:38,970 --> 01:03:35,620
and their implications with Joshua black

1580
01:03:47,140 --> 01:03:38,980
got more to come with Jeanne and Randall

1581
01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:50,000
hey let me tell you a few things the

1582
01:03:56,210 --> 01:03:52,260
number of elderly residents is expected

1583
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to nearly double by 2050 10,000 boomers

1584
01:04:04,370 --> 01:04:00,270
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1585
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1586
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1592
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1593
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1595
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1604
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black I understand the practical thing

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here but when we talked about dreams and

1682
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precognition and we normally think well

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you predict possibly or expect the death

1684
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of somebody loved one or something are

1685
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there other areas of precognition that

1686
01:08:34,530 --> 01:08:30,409
these dreams lead to that may sometimes

1687
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be true yeah so I've heard other dreams

1688
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when it comes to not like deceased loved

1689
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one but let's say some like more

1690
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mystical kind of experiences so one

1691
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dream was shared where an individual was

1692
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having a court case so after the person

1693
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her father I died there was a lawsuit

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going on and the individual needed these

1695
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papers to actually win the court case

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but she couldn't find them anywhere

1697
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and so she's stressing out about it and

1698
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then also she had this dream and then in

1699
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the dream she had she was in this like

1700
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storage unit and there was all these

1701
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bins everywhere and there's this one bin

1702
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and on top of the bin was this kind of

1703
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like I think was like a leather jacket

1704
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anyways the deceased lifts up the

1705
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leather jacket and then the papers are

1706
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there and so she woke up she went to

1707
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that storage unit looked at that Ben

1708
01:09:29,289 --> 01:09:27,650
corsa jacket was there lifted it up in

1709
01:09:31,570 --> 01:09:29,299
the paper she needed to win the court

1710
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:31,580
case we're actually in there and I've

1711
01:09:34,180 --> 01:09:32,449
heard this actually a couple different

1712
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times where sometimes this u s-- will

1713
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come if you're looking for something and

1714
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you can't find it or maybe they stashed

1715
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something this is a very interesting one

1716
01:09:43,419 --> 01:09:41,659
I've heard this a couple times they

1717
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stash something maybe it's money or it's

1718
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the will in a place where the deceased

1719
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where the living person didn't know

1720
01:09:52,689 --> 01:09:50,060
where it was they get the dream where it

1721
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shows the location and then they they go

1722
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:55,280
to that and the thing is there so as I'm

1723
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:56,690
saying like it it's the mystery of life

1724
01:10:01,180 --> 01:09:58,489
it just makes you sit there I can't you

1725
01:10:03,340 --> 01:10:01,190
know I'm trusting their word on the the

1726
01:10:05,860 --> 01:10:03,350
dreams themselves and all I can do so

1727
01:10:07,339 --> 01:10:05,870
acknowledge that that's that's what

1728
01:10:10,990 --> 01:10:07,349
they're telling me

1729
01:10:13,370 --> 01:10:11,000
if that's true that's a very interesting

1730
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:13,380
interesting dream interesting event to

1731
01:10:18,589 --> 01:10:15,210
happen in this world

1732
01:10:20,930 --> 01:10:18,599
is it possible here in some cases before

1733
01:10:24,109 --> 01:10:20,940
dying the deceased person showed them

1734
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something they relate to what they're

1735
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looking for and in searching for it they

1736
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remember oh

1737
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they showed me that so they dream of the

1738
01:10:35,450 --> 01:10:33,630
individuals showing them this particular

1739
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:35,460
item mm-hm

1740
01:10:39,530 --> 01:10:37,710
that could be or say like that it's hard

1741
01:10:41,689 --> 01:10:39,540
to really determine you're just trusting

1742
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the person's word and they're their

1743
01:10:46,819 --> 01:10:44,520
cognitive memory to sort of see have

1744
01:10:48,169 --> 01:10:46,829
they ever showed me that before and so

1745
01:10:50,750 --> 01:10:48,179
that's what I'm saying like when it

1746
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comes to - if someone ever shared that

1747
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:53,369
to me I acknowledge that that's what

1748
01:10:57,260 --> 01:10:55,409
they believe occurred and that's okay

1749
01:10:58,790 --> 01:10:57,270
I'm like here did it sort of say you

1750
01:11:00,319 --> 01:10:58,800
know trying to like really debate you

1751
01:11:01,580 --> 01:11:00,329
know have you did you know it before and

1752
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that's her stuff because it's not really

1753
01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,449
going to get anywhere but just to

1754
01:11:07,819 --> 01:11:05,340
acknowledge that occurred for them and

1755
01:11:09,260 --> 01:11:07,829
what that made them feel right like and

1756
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:09,270
how did that help them expression with

1757
01:11:12,919 --> 01:11:11,310
the woman the court case she was it was

1758
01:11:14,839 --> 01:11:12,929
just like a remarkable feeling that

1759
01:11:16,459 --> 01:11:14,849
actually helped her not only win the

1760
01:11:17,870 --> 01:11:16,469
court case and relieve live stress but

1761
01:11:20,810 --> 01:11:17,880
also feel loved that she was you know

1762
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:20,820
she took it's a visitation that her

1763
01:11:24,919 --> 01:11:22,530
father was still with her and you know

1764
01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:24,929
that's cool don't get me wrong here I

1765
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:27,659
tend to examine things from a skeptical

1766
01:11:31,609 --> 01:11:29,489
point of view and what you sort of are

1767
01:11:33,950 --> 01:11:31,619
seeing is debate for the purpose of

1768
01:11:36,970 --> 01:11:33,960
getting at what is more likely to be

1769
01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:36,980
true about specific kinds of claims and

1770
01:11:41,569 --> 01:11:39,270
therefore what we're having is is a

1771
01:11:43,850 --> 01:11:41,579
discussion that is truth-seeking we're

1772
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:43,860
not necessarily having a debate we're

1773
01:11:48,729 --> 01:11:46,290
looking for the truth and so we have to

1774
01:11:51,589 --> 01:11:48,739
ask those kinds of questions in order to

1775
01:11:53,810 --> 01:11:51,599
help us make some sense of what you call

1776
01:11:55,970 --> 01:11:53,820
the mystery and you know I can't help

1777
01:11:58,010 --> 01:11:55,980
but think that it is the mystery it is

1778
01:12:00,319 --> 01:11:58,020
in fact that these things are happening

1779
01:12:03,140 --> 01:12:00,329
and then they do represent a mystery

1780
01:12:05,060 --> 01:12:03,150
that leads us to these types of

1781
01:12:07,729 --> 01:12:05,070
investigations we want to know why I

1782
01:12:11,330 --> 01:12:07,739
mean don't you have any curiosity as to

1783
01:12:12,979 --> 01:12:11,340
how these things are possible yeah and I

1784
01:12:15,109 --> 01:12:12,989
have no idea I said like if they are

1785
01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:15,119
especially the precognitive stuff how it

1786
01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:17,620
is possible I have no idea and

1787
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:19,510
I don't have the tools to and we have

1788
01:12:25,770 --> 01:12:22,510
the scientific understanding yet even

1789
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:25,780
the tools to research that in a way that

1790
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:28,570
it needs to be done and so I'm okay with

1791
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:31,690
leaving it as unknown and that it may be

1792
01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:33,730
possible I'm okay with that some people

1793
01:12:36,660 --> 01:12:34,840
aren't right like some people really

1794
01:12:38,940 --> 01:12:36,670
want to know and like have they ever

1795
01:12:40,890 --> 01:12:38,950
shown them you know where that was you

1796
01:12:42,810 --> 01:12:40,900
know okay okay that's who you are and

1797
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:42,820
what you need and they may have or may

1798
01:12:46,230 --> 01:12:44,290
not look at the end the day like I'm

1799
01:12:48,930 --> 01:12:46,240
working with people in their grief and

1800
01:12:50,820 --> 01:12:48,940
that trying to understand that aspect

1801
01:12:52,650 --> 01:12:50,830
actually turning away from the grief

1802
01:12:54,810 --> 01:12:52,660
when I look at things when I'm speaking

1803
01:12:56,940 --> 01:12:54,820
to you today it's about those people who

1804
01:12:59,130 --> 01:12:56,950
are grieving and the sharing stuff to me

1805
01:13:00,840 --> 01:12:59,140
how can I approach them in a way that's

1806
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:00,850
loving to help them through their

1807
01:13:04,650 --> 01:13:03,370
journey but like with you and me I say

1808
01:13:07,260 --> 01:13:04,660
like neither of us are talking about

1809
01:13:09,810 --> 01:13:07,270
someone's grief then yeah it's very

1810
01:13:11,370 --> 01:13:09,820
interesting and it could be what you're

1811
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:11,380
talking about when you talk about what's

1812
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:13,570
the truth it could be multiple things

1813
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:16,330
but I don't know but I'm not against any

1814
01:13:24,380 --> 01:13:19,090
sort of approach on what it could be are

1815
01:13:27,540 --> 01:13:24,390
you never curious to find out why like

1816
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:27,550
not really you know like it's it's very

1817
01:13:31,260 --> 01:13:28,630
interesting it depends what you're

1818
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:31,270
focused on and when it comes to that

1819
01:13:36,060 --> 01:13:34,090
stuff I know that you can't know sign

1820
01:13:38,190 --> 01:13:36,070
like academically you can't study that

1821
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:38,200
but I know it's possible it could be

1822
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:40,690
memory right it definitely could be just

1823
01:13:45,390 --> 01:13:43,570
forgot and that's interesting but like

1824
01:13:47,130 --> 01:13:45,400
some of the stuff that you hear you're

1825
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:47,140
like especially with the people dying

1826
01:13:52,860 --> 01:13:49,510
and stuff and I like sitting and the

1827
01:13:55,230 --> 01:13:52,870
unknown and what it could be and who

1828
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:55,240
knows but it doesn't bother me

1829
01:13:59,730 --> 01:13:57,310
like I don't need to find the truth on

1830
01:14:02,220 --> 01:13:59,740
those things other things I do when it

1831
01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:02,230
comes to that I'm okay with just sitting

1832
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:04,630
with whatever it may be given all the

1833
01:14:09,540 --> 01:14:06,490
possibilities it's not like I'm one over

1834
01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:09,550
the other I'm just wondering why you

1835
01:14:16,500 --> 01:14:12,510
feel that way it strikes me as kind of

1836
01:14:21,050 --> 01:14:16,510
incuriously facilities here of a

1837
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:21,060
university to do all sorts of research

1838
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:23,260
mm-hmm but you're willing to accept the

1839
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:25,690
stories as opposed to saying hey what's

1840
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,090
causing this is it memory is an

1841
01:14:32,510 --> 01:14:30,960
interaction with some supernatural force

1842
01:14:35,060 --> 01:14:32,520
in life after death there's so many

1843
01:14:39,709 --> 01:14:35,070
possibilities and if you don't want to

1844
01:14:42,590 --> 01:14:39,719
do it or it's not your area of expertise

1845
01:14:44,780 --> 01:14:42,600
maybe help encourage other people to

1846
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:44,790
look into it yeah like at the end the

1847
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:45,810
day if other people want it that's

1848
01:14:50,150 --> 01:14:48,090
that's fine but it's it like it's how

1849
01:14:52,340 --> 01:14:50,160
would we know like how do we know that's

1850
01:14:54,530 --> 01:14:52,350
what like I understand the topic and

1851
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:54,540
enough that if someone shared that let's

1852
01:14:58,940 --> 01:14:56,730
say it was to try to find something that

1853
01:15:02,330 --> 01:14:58,950
you know they didn't know didn't think

1854
01:15:04,190 --> 01:15:02,340
they knew how would you even investigate

1855
01:15:05,930 --> 01:15:04,200
that you know like because if they're

1856
01:15:07,220 --> 01:15:05,940
not remembering if it's suppressed how

1857
01:15:08,750 --> 01:15:07,230
you supposed to even know that it was a

1858
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:08,760
memory you know like we don't have the

1859
01:15:14,270 --> 01:15:11,040
tools to understand if it was memory to

1860
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:14,280
begin with so I can understand the how

1861
01:15:17,060 --> 01:15:16,110
hard it would be to even try to find the

1862
01:15:21,140 --> 01:15:17,070
truth and that's what we're all trying

1863
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:21,150
to say it's I'm not - we don't have the

1864
01:15:23,690 --> 01:15:22,530
tools yet and so because we don't the

1865
01:15:26,810 --> 01:15:23,700
tools is not something that's depressing

1866
01:15:31,550 --> 01:15:26,820
to me because to understand that

1867
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:31,560
question if that was a actual you know

1868
01:15:36,410 --> 01:15:33,690
memory or if it was actually something

1869
01:15:39,470 --> 01:15:36,420
new from sort of the afterlife or or

1870
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:39,480
whatnot you need different techniques

1871
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:41,370
and tools to investigate this stuff that

1872
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we just don't have and so I came not

1873
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gonna invent it

1874
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that's not my my purpose it's not where

1875
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my heart is my heart is first just

1876
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really looking at these dreams to give

1877
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them I guess a voice and then if people

1878
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want to there's a ton of researchers yet

1879
01:15:58,910 --> 01:15:57,540
this haven't really focused on atomic if

1880
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they want to start focusing on these

1881
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dreams there's a lot of different areas

1882
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that you can and if this is something

1883
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that they want to do you know amazing

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would be interesting to see what kind of

1885
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methods they use to try to to answer

1886
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their questions because I can't come up

1887
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with any in my head that would be valid

1888
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and that's when should I say it's it's

1889
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one of those questions that you know

1890
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we're just not ready to answer in a salt

1891
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scientific community I want to ask you

1892
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something else in our next segment and

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we'll get to something our power cache

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charge with the purchase of a per key

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online at Gober Keep Calm that's Gober

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this is actually you're listening to the

2009
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podcast the gold standard of paranormal

2010
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:16,150
so our guest co-host is Jay Randall

2011
01:21:20,590 --> 01:21:18,770
Murphy Krishna Brian's on special

2012
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:20,600
assignment Joshua Black is here talked

2013
01:21:25,150 --> 01:21:22,400
about grief dreams and we're questioning

2014
01:21:27,310 --> 01:21:25,160
him on things that maybe he doesn't get

2015
01:21:30,190 --> 01:21:27,320
involved in but just to kind of cover

2016
01:21:32,440 --> 01:21:30,200
where he's at so with regard to grief

2017
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:32,450
dreams what about what people remember

2018
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:34,610
when they have so-called near-death

2019
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:36,770
experiences you know they're clinically

2020
01:21:41,470 --> 01:21:39,530
dead on the operating room table for a

2021
01:21:43,230 --> 01:21:41,480
short period of time and they come back

2022
01:21:45,610 --> 01:21:43,240
and they have some sort of dream

2023
01:21:48,250 --> 01:21:45,620
experience to relate do you look into

2024
01:21:50,350 --> 01:21:48,260
those no no I don't I just focus

2025
01:21:52,810 --> 01:21:50,360
strictly on when someone's actually

2026
01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:52,820
dreaming in their bed so I don't know

2027
01:21:57,070 --> 01:21:55,310
much about the information on that you

2028
01:21:59,820 --> 01:21:57,080
probably know more about it than I would

2029
01:22:04,170 --> 01:21:59,830
have you ever had a case where someone

2030
01:22:07,330 --> 01:22:04,180
has said that they've had a dream that

2031
01:22:09,340 --> 01:22:07,340
related to some loss of the you know

2032
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:09,350
loss of a loved one in some way shape or

2033
01:22:15,190 --> 01:22:13,250
form that also involved some sort of

2034
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:15,200
maybe the presence of an alien or

2035
01:22:21,130 --> 01:22:16,850
something along those lines something

2036
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:21,140
highly unusual no like I haven't heard

2037
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:23,600
any alien dreams the closest I've heard

2038
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:25,730
was angels so there's a couple dreams

2039
01:22:31,150 --> 01:22:28,610
where it was a deceased child that died

2040
01:22:34,150 --> 01:22:31,160
and the child was floating on the

2041
01:22:36,820 --> 01:22:34,160
ceiling and there was an angel there and

2042
01:22:38,740 --> 01:22:36,830
bright light and the child was saying

2043
01:22:40,990 --> 01:22:38,750
that they were okay and there were Jesus

2044
01:22:43,540 --> 01:22:41,000
so that's probably them like what I've

2045
01:22:46,300 --> 01:22:43,550
seen but at the other day I haven't once

2046
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:46,310
I survey more people that may come up I

2047
01:22:51,820 --> 01:22:48,650
don't know a lot of it could be based on

2048
01:22:53,470 --> 01:22:51,830
the way you perceive reality so I

2049
01:22:55,810 --> 01:22:53,480
haven't really looked into how other

2050
01:22:58,750 --> 01:22:55,820
cultures have what kind of dreams they

2051
01:23:00,460 --> 01:22:58,760
have so let's say this is like just the

2052
01:23:01,870 --> 01:23:00,470
starting blocks it's just really pioneer

2053
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:01,880
in this research so there's so many

2054
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:03,410
unanswered questions and so many things

2055
01:23:08,710 --> 01:23:06,530
I think once we collect more data and

2056
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:08,720
more stories from people it should be

2057
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:11,210
interesting to see what's possible how

2058
01:23:16,690 --> 01:23:14,330
many dreams have you actually physically

2059
01:23:18,030 --> 01:23:16,700
investigated in terms of talking to

2060
01:23:20,830 --> 01:23:18,040
people or collecting the information

2061
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:20,840
yeah good question I'm just by like

2062
01:23:24,490 --> 01:23:22,250
reading a literature talking to people

2063
01:23:25,580 --> 01:23:24,500
over thousands when it came to my first

2064
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:25,590
study there

2065
01:23:32,359 --> 01:23:29,040
around 77 dreams for my MA research and

2066
01:23:34,580 --> 01:23:32,369
then now I'm looking at dreams but also

2067
01:23:37,490 --> 01:23:34,590
just looking at you know how people like

2068
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:37,500
what factors predict their dreams and so

2069
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:40,080
I had almost 300 people for my dispels a

2070
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:43,170
law study after pet law I was 175 and

2071
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:46,170
miscarriages was around 250 so it's

2072
01:23:49,609 --> 01:23:47,489
getting up there and I'm hoping to do

2073
01:23:51,470 --> 01:23:49,619
another study with after spells of loss

2074
01:23:53,419 --> 01:23:51,480
when it comes to looking at what dreams

2075
01:23:54,500 --> 01:23:53,429
are and why do some positive dreams

2076
01:23:56,839 --> 01:23:54,510
worse' negative dreams and they'll

2077
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:56,849
probably be around 200 of those but yeah

2078
01:23:59,780 --> 01:23:58,080
just by doing all the talks and

2079
01:24:01,939 --> 01:23:59,790
interviews I've been doing in the

2080
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:01,949
workshops I've you know every time I go

2081
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:03,449
there there's people just want to share

2082
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:05,280
their dreams and when I do these

2083
01:24:09,919 --> 01:24:07,110
interviews people tend to email me after

2084
01:24:12,379 --> 01:24:09,929
and share their dreams and it's over

2085
01:24:14,689 --> 01:24:12,389
thousands of drains for sure they're all

2086
01:24:17,629 --> 01:24:14,699
unique in their own way based on who the

2087
01:24:19,939 --> 01:24:17,639
person was to them the relationship and

2088
01:24:20,930 --> 01:24:19,949
and you know their their lives and I

2089
01:24:23,089 --> 01:24:20,940
think that's what's fastening there's

2090
01:24:26,300 --> 01:24:23,099
common themes and I found different

2091
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:26,310
common themes in the dreams of the

2092
01:24:30,859 --> 01:24:29,040
deceased and like so one of them would

2093
01:24:33,649 --> 01:24:30,869
be like rationalization

2094
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:33,659
so the dreamer is there and they see the

2095
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:34,770
deceased and they're trying to figure

2096
01:24:39,290 --> 01:24:36,570
out how they're even there because they

2097
01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:39,300
died and so the deceased usually will

2098
01:24:43,820 --> 01:24:41,280
say something like they didn't like

2099
01:24:45,169 --> 01:24:43,830
being dead or you know something in the

2100
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:45,179
fire brought them back so they always

2101
01:24:48,169 --> 01:24:46,770
have like an excuse on why they're there

2102
01:24:50,330 --> 01:24:48,179
and then usually the story continues a

2103
01:24:52,220 --> 01:24:50,340
little bit after that but then the

2104
01:24:53,810 --> 01:24:52,230
disease helping crossing over dreams and

2105
01:24:56,899 --> 01:24:53,820
this is interesting so sometimes we'll

2106
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:56,909
have I'll see dreams where the sees is

2107
01:25:00,740 --> 01:24:58,560
sometimes suffering in the dream and

2108
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:00,750
then the dreamer will lay hands on or

2109
01:25:07,250 --> 01:25:04,530
pray and then for the soul to cross over

2110
01:25:11,060 --> 01:25:07,260
and they cross over and other ones I've

2111
01:25:14,450 --> 01:25:11,070
read from a culture Cambodian culture

2112
01:25:16,339 --> 01:25:14,460
and they have sometimes dreams where

2113
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:16,349
they want to be reincarnated because

2114
01:25:21,709 --> 01:25:19,440
Buddhism is the main religion and so

2115
01:25:24,530 --> 01:25:21,719
they to reincarnate they need the person

2116
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:24,540
and waking life to do these rituals for

2117
01:25:26,990 --> 01:25:25,770
them and so sometimes they have these

2118
01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:27,000
kind of dreams but so they want to

2119
01:25:31,310 --> 01:25:29,790
reincarnate sort of back and then do the

2120
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:31,320
other ones with like dead dying or ill

2121
01:25:36,050 --> 01:25:33,449
so the ceases you know dead or dying

2122
01:25:39,380 --> 01:25:36,060
within the dream sometimes as they did

2123
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:39,390
in waking life other times in more exact

2124
01:25:42,710 --> 01:25:41,130
fashion there's discomfort for the

2125
01:25:45,020 --> 01:25:42,720
deceases sometimes chasing the person

2126
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:45,030
then there's the comfort ones a lot of

2127
01:25:47,870 --> 01:25:46,560
people have most people have these

2128
01:25:50,630 --> 01:25:47,880
comfort ones with its Easter who's

2129
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:50,640
saying they love them they're okay they

2130
01:25:54,590 --> 01:25:52,770
providing forgiveness healthy and happy

2131
01:25:56,990 --> 01:25:54,600
so this is where the sea sometimes

2132
01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:57,000
usually in the background and it's just

2133
01:26:00,830 --> 01:25:58,290
you're seeing them and they're smiling

2134
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:00,840
there okay and then lastly there's a

2135
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:03,210
separation theme where the sea she

2136
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:05,040
usually says if they have to go which i

2137
01:26:08,090 --> 01:26:06,810
think is really interesting so they say

2138
01:26:11,210 --> 01:26:08,100
they have to go they have to leave now

2139
01:26:13,610 --> 01:26:11,220
and that's how it usually ends and they

2140
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sort of fade away or there's a barrier

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between the two so sometimes a fence and

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the person says I know you can't come

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this way and so they can't actually

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cross that barrier so those are like the

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seven themes that I found and there's

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probably more the more you know data you

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collect the more these themes could

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change a little bit but for the most

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part gives you a sort of variety of

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experiences people are having this is

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something you do during your daily work

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life or something you do in the evening

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I do at the PhD research I do this every

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day all day just doing a quick google

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search here I've run across several

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instances where women say they've had

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dreams about miscarriages that involve

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aliens Oh interesting yeah and most

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01:27:02,780 --> 01:26:59,820
ufologist know about a couple of those

2160
01:27:04,190 --> 01:27:02,790
cases I am NOT I'm not a trivia expert

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01:27:06,260 --> 01:27:04,200
on it I always have to look things up

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01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:06,270
again to remind me but I know there are

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a few cases and it's interesting to see

2164
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a couple of them here another one says

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that they had a dream about alien

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invasion involving people dying shortly

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after losing their pet dogs out there

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and it would be interesting to know

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because these people who had these kinds

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of dreams they think they're they're

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real they think that they've been

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abducted by aliens and that they have

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been impregnated and that they've had

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their fetus taken from them and in some

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cases they've they say that they can out

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they can actually be in communication

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with them on some sort of telepathic

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level that they feel takes place during

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their dreams so

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that's a thing yeah it is really

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01:28:00,150 --> 01:27:57,640
interesting yeah and yeah but is there

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any truth to that are these as

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subjective as religious dreams or our

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religious dreams another reflection of a

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type of alien intervention-- or presence

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that's you who knows exactly no you're

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right and there's a lot of a lot of

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things that we still need to find out

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but obviously we're talking about them I

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think that's the most important thing to

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actually get it out there so people

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don't feel I think isolated or alone

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with these experiences that other people

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are having these end to normalize the

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experience I think is you know one of

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the big reasons to talk about subject

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well I can actually appreciate what

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you're saying when you you don't want to

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start debating with the patient on what

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they believe because that's not what as

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you say that's going to produce some

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sort of cognitive dissonance and sent

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them into a sort of a defensive posture

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and it's going to be harder for you to

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help them so from that perspective I can

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completely appreciate where you're

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coming from from a therapeutic

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perspective thank you I appreciate that

2209
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let me ask you also about dreams are

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there ever dreams shared among two or

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more people where they have the same

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dream about the same person I've heard

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of stories like that with living people

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I haven't heard that when it comes to

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the ceased the closest thing I can think

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of was a woman so I lost her father and

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so she had this dream where her father

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and her talking and she said that she

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had you know the father so you have to

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come visit mom she really needs to know

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that you love her and give her a hug and

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then the dream ended anyways the next

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morning she has a phone call from her

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mom saying that the her deceased father

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came to her I told her she loved them

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and hugged her and then the daughter

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says I told him to do that

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so that was like the closest thing where

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the deceased sort of showed up in two

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dreams that are very similar in the

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sense of what was going on but they

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could tell it that the timeframe was

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little maybe a little different

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but I thought was just one of those

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things that it makes you sort of just

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like sit with that and you're like wow

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interesting but it made her feel says

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she cried after and she felt loves that

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her father sort of listened to her so

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you know I thought that was amazing that

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it goes to another party I think puts

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the whole thing in a different

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perspective it's not just an individual

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experience but something that is

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extending to another person we've got

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different complexion on this don't you

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think yeah I honestly do I just said it

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makes you sit and like just in the

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mystery of life you're like what like

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but you know like someone else could say

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dream and you know it's common to have

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this you say they love you and hug you

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so but with that woman it's just

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accepting that reality for and asking

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her what that felt like

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sort of have that dream and for Mom they

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have that dream and you know have they

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had any dreams you know beyond that and

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what that looked like so yeah I

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definitely sort of changes how you see

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these dreams and what's possible when it

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comes to dreams itself well here on the

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podcast we do try to connect things like

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dreams to the paranormal and those kinds

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of experiences because quite a few of us

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here I would say the majority of us do

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believe that strange things happen and

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that strange things have happened to us

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as well but we're really curious as to

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why and how and not just simply sort of

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describing the experience for ourselves

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to make ourselves feel better so that's

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where I was coming from with my previous

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questions and we're not in a therapy

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session here so I think it's fair for us

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to explore some of the reasons why we

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maybe think the things that we do and

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you say you do believe in an afterlife

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so if you don't mind me asking why do

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you believe in an afterlife you know a

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good question well the first one I

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answer that even though it's just me and

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you and we're talking I know other

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listeners may have been dealing with

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grief and so that's why I'm always when

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it comes to this we were like in a bar

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or something and maybe talking a little

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bit differently but because I know other

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people are listening and they may be

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grieving I'm aware of that so we're

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actually in the kind of a therapeutic

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session with the outside world but when

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it comes to sort of my own belief system

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and why I believe that good question you

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know like I was raised in a Christian

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home most of my life so it was around me

2403
01:37:21,930 --> 01:37:20,860
but I never really believed in God you

2404
01:37:24,270 --> 01:37:21,940
know I was just more just doing it for

2405
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:24,280
them to help them but it was one dream I

2406
01:37:30,060 --> 01:37:27,610
had that actually just changed the

2407
01:37:31,290 --> 01:37:30,070
direction of my life before I always

2408
01:37:33,390 --> 01:37:31,300
thought dreams were from the devil and

2409
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:33,400
that's sort of my I had like nightmares

2410
01:37:37,140 --> 01:37:35,290
as a child and that's what my mom and

2411
01:37:38,670 --> 01:37:37,150
dad would say to me and so I never

2412
01:37:40,290 --> 01:37:38,680
really thought training for anything and

2413
01:37:42,510 --> 01:37:40,300
if they were there they're actually

2414
01:37:44,460 --> 01:37:42,520
negative in nature and from the devil so

2415
01:37:46,530 --> 01:37:44,470
what happened was I was dating this

2416
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:46,540
woman and I was madly in love in high

2417
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:50,770
school you know how that goes right of

2418
01:37:54,180 --> 01:37:52,090
course you know at the end of it she

2419
01:37:56,250 --> 01:37:54,190
cheated on me and it broke my heart

2420
01:37:58,110 --> 01:37:56,260
it really just tore it I haven't felt

2421
01:38:00,810 --> 01:37:58,120
that kind of suffering before I had an e

2422
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:00,820
or sleep for three days and I was just

2423
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:03,610
like I'm so out of it and I couldn't

2424
01:38:07,650 --> 01:38:05,770
understand why I was in so much pain and

2425
01:38:10,770 --> 01:38:07,660
it was the first time I said you know

2426
01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:10,780
God if you're even there please help me

2427
01:38:14,910 --> 01:38:13,270
understand why I feel like this and so I

2428
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:14,920
said I'm just like out there like just

2429
01:38:18,570 --> 01:38:17,050
down and out just say okay this is my

2430
01:38:20,850 --> 01:38:18,580
call you know I haven't called you yeah

2431
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:20,860
this is my call and so what happened was

2432
01:38:25,590 --> 01:38:23,770
I had a dream and I'll show the dream I

2433
01:38:27,540 --> 01:38:25,600
saw this dream I started running by this

2434
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:27,550
stream I was frantically looking for

2435
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:29,890
something and I was walking up and down

2436
01:38:33,450 --> 01:38:31,690
running up and down these hills going

2437
01:38:35,670 --> 01:38:33,460
under bridges and it felt like it was

2438
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:35,680
just ours just doing this thing and it

2439
01:38:40,350 --> 01:38:38,110
finally opened up and and led to this

2440
01:38:42,930 --> 01:38:40,360
ocean and then in the distance there was

2441
01:38:45,540 --> 01:38:42,940
a pier and so I saw a person would

2442
01:38:47,610 --> 01:38:45,550
appear and so I went and ran over to the

2443
01:38:50,370 --> 01:38:47,620
person the pier and Francie looking like

2444
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:50,380
where is it where is it I looked and he

2445
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:52,210
looked at me and he said and pointed out

2446
01:38:55,950 --> 01:38:53,920
to the laughs and said it could be over

2447
01:38:57,960 --> 01:38:55,960
there they point to the right and could

2448
01:38:59,280 --> 01:38:57,970
be over there and then he said point of

2449
01:39:01,170 --> 01:38:59,290
the center is they could be over there

2450
01:39:04,650 --> 01:39:01,180
but then he looked at me with these like

2451
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:04,660
very like stoic kind of eyes I just very

2452
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:06,910
calm peaceful I said you know where it

2453
01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:09,760
truly is and he pointed to his mind then

2454
01:39:13,500 --> 01:39:11,440
I woke up with like a flash of lightning

2455
01:39:15,150 --> 01:39:13,510
that just like went through me and not

2456
01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:15,160
only it was the first time like this

2457
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:16,510
dream was very different any other dream

2458
01:39:20,370 --> 01:39:18,730
ever had so it was so like I

2459
01:39:22,230 --> 01:39:20,380
my attention the other thing I knew it

2460
01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:22,240
meant for me it meant that my

2461
01:39:26,910 --> 01:39:25,150
perspective on the events so I was

2462
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:26,920
blaming the girl for Chino me I ain't

2463
01:39:31,170 --> 01:39:29,110
blaming the guy for you know doing what

2464
01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:31,180
he did I wasn't actually focusing on

2465
01:39:36,690 --> 01:39:33,520
myself so I woke up I knew instantly

2466
01:39:38,430 --> 01:39:36,700
that the perspective was wrong and why I

2467
01:39:40,830 --> 01:39:38,440
was feeling so much pain was because I

2468
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:40,840
didn't love myself and I always used her

2469
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:43,360
as a way to feel loved and so because

2470
01:39:46,410 --> 01:39:44,770
she cheated and because even she just

2471
01:39:48,330 --> 01:39:46,420
laughed it was just bringing all that up

2472
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:48,340
to the surface then my goal was how can

2473
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:51,490
I learn to love myself more and that was

2474
01:39:55,650 --> 01:39:53,290
the first thing because I prayed and

2475
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:55,660
this thing happened and as I move

2476
01:39:59,820 --> 01:39:57,850
forward I I start figuring out different

2477
01:40:01,560 --> 01:39:59,830
ways on you know how to love myself I

2478
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:01,570
look at different saints and even Jesus

2479
01:40:06,930 --> 01:40:05,170
and their approach to teaching people to

2480
01:40:09,390 --> 01:40:06,940
love themselves and so that's how I got

2481
01:40:12,780 --> 01:40:09,400
into sort of there's something here for

2482
01:40:15,900 --> 01:40:12,790
me and so I'm saying like um and it led

2483
01:40:18,900 --> 01:40:15,910
me to love myself more and I think

2484
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:18,910
that's why it's it's for me it led there

2485
01:40:22,770 --> 01:40:20,410
and when I when I believe there's

2486
01:40:25,410 --> 01:40:22,780
something more and then my dream with my

2487
01:40:26,370 --> 01:40:25,420
father was the big thing that helped me

2488
01:40:28,410 --> 01:40:26,380
believe that there was an afterlife

2489
01:40:31,260 --> 01:40:28,420
because that dream of my father was the

2490
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:31,270
same kind of dream I had with that guy

2491
01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:33,970
on the pier same kind of feeling and I

2492
01:40:37,980 --> 01:40:35,710
hadn't had a dream like in that

2493
01:40:40,830 --> 01:40:37,990
timeframe that was different like I

2494
01:40:42,450 --> 01:40:40,840
think that why I is it the starting

2495
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:42,460
point and then it's just like how do I

2496
01:40:48,170 --> 01:40:44,890
add their events in my life that just

2497
01:40:50,970 --> 01:40:48,180
sort of reinforced that belief in me and

2498
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:50,980
that served the process on sort of how I

2499
01:40:58,710 --> 01:40:54,130
sort of began believing how old were you

2500
01:41:00,960 --> 01:40:58,720
at this time so when the girl was after

2501
01:41:02,910 --> 01:41:00,970
high school was when the oh how old I

2502
01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:02,920
was at 19 there's always see back then

2503
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:07,360
so I'm dating myself so yeah it's

2504
01:41:11,070 --> 01:41:09,280
probably like 19 18 19 when I had that

2505
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:11,080
first dream and then the dream of my

2506
01:41:16,620 --> 01:41:14,890
father I think it was around 23 25 until

2507
01:41:20,310 --> 01:41:16,630
then did you have a strong religious

2508
01:41:22,620 --> 01:41:20,320
commitment no like my family home wasn't

2509
01:41:25,260 --> 01:41:22,630
one that was the greatest and so here

2510
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:25,270
these people searching my father was

2511
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:27,850
very angry very judgmental very hateful

2512
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:30,790
and abusive in different ways and he was

2513
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:32,370
preaching religion to me

2514
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:34,370
and how can I believe in something that

2515
01:41:38,780 --> 01:41:36,810
this person saying I need to believe in

2516
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:38,790
when he's trying to use force and so I

2517
01:41:43,370 --> 01:41:40,650
never really if anything I disbelieved

2518
01:41:46,700 --> 01:41:43,380
because he believed it but these

2519
01:41:49,490 --> 01:41:46,710
experiences really changed that well

2520
01:41:52,130 --> 01:41:49,500
thanks for sharing that that's that's

2521
01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:52,140
really quite interesting and you know

2522
01:41:59,180 --> 01:41:56,070
how it reflects on me I mean you've got

2523
01:42:02,690 --> 01:41:59,190
you sort of your confirmation of your

2524
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:02,700
beliefs coming from it in one way and I

2525
01:42:08,030 --> 01:42:05,850
kind of see envisioning this as you were

2526
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,040
describing it it's a character that

2527
01:42:13,310 --> 01:42:10,560
pointed at is at his head as if it's you

2528
01:42:17,450 --> 01:42:13,320
know the answer is in your mind it's in

2529
01:42:20,030 --> 01:42:17,460
your intellect and you can manage it and

2530
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:20,040
you related to that on a very intuitive

2531
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:24,210
level and began to become retrospective

2532
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:27,570
and to think about it and why you were

2533
01:42:31,820 --> 01:42:29,610
feeling that way and I think that's

2534
01:42:33,620 --> 01:42:31,830
really important and I think it's really

2535
01:42:37,190 --> 01:42:33,630
important that you don't let that

2536
01:42:40,460 --> 01:42:37,200
journey stop with your belief in an

2537
01:42:42,170 --> 01:42:40,470
afterlife I used to believe in after

2538
01:42:44,900 --> 01:42:42,180
lives I used to believe in God at one

2539
01:42:48,500 --> 01:42:44,910
time I went away from that I went back

2540
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:48,510
to it and it that was some twenty years

2541
01:42:54,500 --> 01:42:52,050
ago when I left it again and have never

2542
01:42:56,180 --> 01:42:54,510
looked back I just moved past it but I

2543
01:42:59,210 --> 01:42:56,190
really think it's part of your journey

2544
01:43:01,160 --> 01:42:59,220
and that message to keep using your mind

2545
01:43:03,740 --> 01:43:01,170
and keep asking questions and see what

2546
01:43:05,480 --> 01:43:03,750
makes the most sense from a critical

2547
01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:05,490
thinking perspective whether we can

2548
01:43:10,910 --> 01:43:08,490
study it scientifically with material

2549
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:10,920
evidence or not it that doesn't matter

2550
01:43:15,830 --> 01:43:12,930
so much use your mind it's really

2551
01:43:18,380 --> 01:43:15,840
powerful and it will really facilitate

2552
01:43:21,380 --> 01:43:18,390
this journey that you're on is you know

2553
01:43:24,050 --> 01:43:21,390
my two cents worth yeah and you know I I

2554
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:24,060
think that's that's great and to see

2555
01:43:27,770 --> 01:43:25,920
that to see the positive of that and

2556
01:43:29,330 --> 01:43:27,780
said we're all on journey and it's like

2557
01:43:31,220 --> 01:43:29,340
you're in religion you're not religion

2558
01:43:33,530 --> 01:43:31,230
and at the end of day you could take the

2559
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:33,540
dream and my own experiences that's what

2560
01:43:37,850 --> 01:43:35,130
you want it's just like what product is

2561
01:43:41,420 --> 01:43:37,860
that common if you're in a religion that

2562
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:41,430
isn't conducive to you you know loving

2563
01:43:45,110 --> 01:43:43,290
yourself then my question is why are you

2564
01:43:46,250 --> 01:43:45,120
there you know a lot of people

2565
01:43:48,020 --> 01:43:46,260
unfortunately are

2566
01:43:49,279 --> 01:43:48,030
in religion because their parents we're

2567
01:43:50,930 --> 01:43:49,289
in religion and they just don't want to

2568
01:43:53,509 --> 01:43:50,940
make them upset by saying they're not

2569
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:53,519
you know but yeah always sort of look at

2570
01:43:56,540 --> 01:43:54,690
why are you doing what you're doing

2571
01:44:00,109 --> 01:43:56,550
because it leads you down a rabbit hole

2572
01:44:02,509 --> 01:44:00,119
that can really I think help you learn

2573
01:44:05,660 --> 01:44:02,519
to appreciate yourself more to make your

2574
01:44:07,370 --> 01:44:05,670
own choices and to love people I think

2575
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:07,380
in a new level because I always feel

2576
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:09,119
that I've learned in my own life that

2577
01:44:13,129 --> 01:44:11,489
once I learned to love myself more I was

2578
01:44:16,220 --> 01:44:13,139
so much it was so much easier to love

2579
01:44:18,350 --> 01:44:16,230
other people oh that's it makes a

2580
01:44:20,529 --> 01:44:18,360
certain amount of sense I've never

2581
01:44:23,390 --> 01:44:20,539
really had that problem personally so

2582
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:23,400
and you know I just look at but the rest

2583
01:44:27,589 --> 01:44:25,650
of it makes perfect sense in terms of

2584
01:44:29,810 --> 01:44:27,599
you know thinking about it and

2585
01:44:32,270 --> 01:44:29,820
reflecting and go well you know I'm not

2586
01:44:34,970 --> 01:44:32,280
a perfect person I don't know everything

2587
01:44:38,689 --> 01:44:34,980
I don't have all the answers but how can

2588
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:38,699
I find them how can I learn more how can

2589
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:41,489
I make myself a better person by

2590
01:44:46,129 --> 01:44:44,730
considering these issues and for me it

2591
01:44:47,890 --> 01:44:46,139
always comes down to trying to find the

2592
01:44:50,750 --> 01:44:47,900
truth about things which is why I get so

2593
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:50,760
curious about why it is that these

2594
01:44:55,939 --> 01:44:52,530
things happen and what do they represent

2595
01:44:58,189 --> 01:44:55,949
you know yeah well it's a like it's it's

2596
01:45:02,689 --> 01:44:58,199
interesting again but being a critical

2597
01:45:04,129 --> 01:45:02,699
thinker is so influential in in finding

2598
01:45:05,899 --> 01:45:04,139
I think the answers you're looking for

2599
01:45:07,939 --> 01:45:05,909
so if you have an answer like go search

2600
01:45:10,459 --> 01:45:07,949
for it you know and if it's not out

2601
01:45:12,319 --> 01:45:10,469
there you know try to find a way to make

2602
01:45:14,509 --> 01:45:12,329
it so if that's the question you're

2603
01:45:16,910 --> 01:45:14,519
asking but still with your break and

2604
01:45:24,850 --> 01:45:16,920
they will have more Joshua black and

2605
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2664
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:08,809
Chris O'Brien's a special assignment

2665
01:48:14,049 --> 01:48:10,489
we're talking to Joshua black about

2666
01:48:16,270 --> 01:48:14,059
grief dreams and their implications let

2667
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:16,280
me ask you quickly here you're a PhD

2668
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:20,449
candidate you get the degree yes and you

2669
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:22,159
continue the research that you're doing

2670
01:48:27,459 --> 01:48:25,010
now do you teach what do you do no I've

2671
01:48:29,229 --> 01:48:27,469
taught already and it's you know my you

2672
01:48:31,359 --> 01:48:29,239
know like I've done it and it was okay

2673
01:48:33,339 --> 01:48:31,369
but my heart just wasn't in it nice and

2674
01:48:36,729 --> 01:48:33,349
so I do want to continue the research

2675
01:48:38,859 --> 01:48:36,739
and so my plan is to actually fund a lab

2676
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:38,869
after I'm done to actually continue the

2677
01:48:43,899 --> 01:48:42,110
research because no one's doing it or no

2678
01:48:45,399 --> 01:48:43,909
one's really doing it and so I really

2679
01:48:47,770 --> 01:48:45,409
wanted to continue and to not just stop

2680
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:47,780
with me and then but I also want to

2681
01:48:52,660 --> 01:48:51,110
teach not in academia like as a

2682
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:52,670
professor but I want to teach the

2683
01:48:56,319 --> 01:48:54,050
general public how to work with these

2684
01:48:58,540 --> 01:48:56,329
dreams how to talk about them and so

2685
01:49:00,640 --> 01:48:58,550
that's why I consciously do workshops

2686
01:49:03,129 --> 01:49:00,650
with people who work with the brave and

2687
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:03,139
I do work and I do talks for the

2688
01:49:06,279 --> 01:49:04,639
bereaved themselves so I want to

2689
01:49:08,709 --> 01:49:06,289
continue doing that as I move forward

2690
01:49:11,259 --> 01:49:08,719
and you know I say like I've only really

2691
01:49:13,449 --> 01:49:11,269
done you know southern Ontario and some

2692
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:13,459
other places but like once I'm done it'd

2693
01:49:16,839 --> 01:49:15,199
be so much easier since I don't have

2694
01:49:17,649 --> 01:49:16,849
this sort of thing I need to get done as

2695
01:49:19,569 --> 01:49:17,659
fast as I can

2696
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:19,579
I can actually start touring the world

2697
01:49:22,629 --> 01:49:21,199
and start talking about this stuff and

2698
01:49:24,279 --> 01:49:22,639
hearing stories and all the different

2699
01:49:26,529 --> 01:49:24,289
stories are out there and normalizing

2700
01:49:28,569 --> 01:49:26,539
this experience so I'll probably write

2701
01:49:31,060 --> 01:49:28,579
in a book somewhere in there too and you

2702
01:49:33,310 --> 01:49:31,070
know who knows what but that's more my

2703
01:49:35,109 --> 01:49:33,320
main thing now it's like how can we how

2704
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:35,119
can I help the brave moving forward the

2705
01:49:40,899 --> 01:49:37,760
best way I can that's certainly an

2706
01:49:43,179 --> 01:49:40,909
honorable calling I lost my life partner

2707
01:49:45,819 --> 01:49:43,189
back in 2015 and of course I was

2708
01:49:49,509 --> 01:49:45,829
referred to number of grief counseling

2709
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:49,519
services and so on and I just I looked

2710
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:53,010
at the syllabus and the outlines and

2711
01:49:57,650 --> 01:49:55,410
I just didn't feel that it was the right

2712
01:49:59,330 --> 01:49:57,660
thing for me to get involved with them

2713
01:50:02,960 --> 01:49:59,340
it didn't seem like it was going to help

2714
01:50:05,930 --> 01:50:02,970
me at all and so I can't say that I've

2715
01:50:08,710 --> 01:50:05,940
had personal experience there but there

2716
01:50:11,060 --> 01:50:08,720
are services out there that do provide

2717
01:50:15,020 --> 01:50:11,070
counseling for people who are grieving

2718
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:15,030
and the you want to help those people I

2719
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:17,250
think is very honorable and that it

2720
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:19,170
sounds like you could possibly bring a

2721
01:50:24,410 --> 01:50:22,770
unique perspective to that process yeah

2722
01:50:27,140 --> 01:50:24,420
especially when it comes to those who

2723
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,150
support the brief because in their

2724
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:29,280
training in theology or in counseling

2725
01:50:32,630 --> 01:50:31,530
they're not trained on these dreams so

2726
01:50:34,190 --> 01:50:32,640
they don't know how to really work with

2727
01:50:37,220 --> 01:50:34,200
them and a lot of people actually don't

2728
01:50:39,170 --> 01:50:37,230
ask the question so I found along my way

2729
01:50:41,060 --> 01:50:39,180
and other people have told me is when

2730
01:50:42,770 --> 01:50:41,070
people ask them about their dreams

2731
01:50:44,330 --> 01:50:42,780
they're more than willing to share but

2732
01:50:47,060 --> 01:50:44,340
for the most part they don't share if

2733
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:47,070
they're not asked and so a lot of like

2734
01:50:52,820 --> 01:50:50,130
to see some sort of dream therapy for

2735
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:52,830
lack of a better term um put into some

2736
01:50:57,110 --> 01:50:54,960
of these grief counseling programs means

2737
01:51:00,590 --> 01:50:57,120
the one the couple that I looked at they

2738
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:00,600
were I live here in Calgary and you were

2739
01:51:05,060 --> 01:51:03,090
supposed to attend several sessions and

2740
01:51:08,510 --> 01:51:05,070
promised that you'll show up and get

2741
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,520
presentations and paperwork and and so

2742
01:51:13,490 --> 01:51:10,800
on for people to to basically do

2743
01:51:16,940 --> 01:51:13,500
homework on so I mean these are are

2744
01:51:18,770 --> 01:51:16,950
being paid for by the city and and he's

2745
01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:18,780
at your hope that you can become more

2746
01:51:23,980 --> 01:51:21,450
involved in those kinds of programs of

2747
01:51:25,790 --> 01:51:23,990
core to any program that works with the

2748
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:25,800
people who work with the Buried of

2749
01:51:30,110 --> 01:51:28,530
course and you first have to legitimize

2750
01:51:31,130 --> 01:51:30,120
the subject and and that's what I'm

2751
01:51:32,450 --> 01:51:31,140
getting and that's why I'm doing the

2752
01:51:34,910 --> 01:51:32,460
research and I'm glad I'm doing the

2753
01:51:36,770 --> 01:51:34,920
research because when I talk to the

2754
01:51:39,110 --> 01:51:36,780
people like executive directors at

2755
01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:39,120
different places the you know they they

2756
01:51:42,710 --> 01:51:40,560
first look at the research and that once

2757
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:42,720
they realize that science is actually

2758
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:44,010
looking at this stuff it's actually

2759
01:51:47,420 --> 01:51:45,840
valid and these experiences people are

2760
01:51:51,170 --> 01:51:47,430
having and sharing then they're more

2761
01:51:52,730 --> 01:51:51,180
open to doing it but before before the

2762
01:51:56,570 --> 01:51:52,740
research was out there I was in my ma I

2763
01:51:59,600 --> 01:51:56,580
got a lot of negative comments on the

2764
01:52:01,880 --> 01:51:59,610
dreams or even doing a subject or wanted

2765
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:01,890
me to do talks so it things have changed

2766
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:03,450
just because research is getting out

2767
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:05,610
there now and you know that's what I'd

2768
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:06,570
like to

2769
01:52:10,069 --> 01:52:08,610
seeing that change in that progress as

2770
01:52:14,990 --> 01:52:10,079
you move forward and a lot of people who

2771
01:52:16,399 --> 01:52:15,000
do dream therapy it's it's not that

2772
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:16,409
think that the dream stuff time I'm

2773
01:52:21,290 --> 01:52:19,770
really working on because the I don't

2774
01:52:23,359 --> 01:52:21,300
think they really know the research

2775
01:52:24,649 --> 01:52:23,369
itself when it comes to this topic so

2776
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:24,659
they're going out in a specific way

2777
01:52:28,250 --> 01:52:26,730
maybe it's Jungian psychology or

2778
01:52:30,770 --> 01:52:28,260
Floridian or some other way of

2779
01:52:33,050 --> 01:52:30,780
interpreting your dreams and I'm really

2780
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:33,060
just peeling it right back to sort of

2781
01:52:36,589 --> 01:52:34,770
dreams represented waking life and how

2782
01:52:39,260 --> 01:52:36,599
can we talk about these dreams in a safe

2783
01:52:41,540 --> 01:52:39,270
environment where you're not devaluing

2784
01:52:42,740 --> 01:52:41,550
the person's experience but actually

2785
01:52:44,209 --> 01:52:42,750
helping them through their grief journey

2786
01:52:45,229 --> 01:52:44,219
and that takes a little bit more

2787
01:52:46,609 --> 01:52:45,239
training so I'll probably have a

2788
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:46,619
training program that's what my

2789
01:52:51,470 --> 01:52:48,719
workshops are about is really focusing

2790
01:52:53,060 --> 01:52:51,480
on that aspect of it and who knows but

2791
01:52:55,850 --> 01:52:53,070
at the end of the day I'm just happy I

2792
01:52:57,379 --> 01:52:55,860
can I almost memorialized my dad by

2793
01:52:59,089 --> 01:52:57,389
doing this and it actually gives me a

2794
01:53:01,100 --> 01:52:59,099
lot of comfort by doing this work and

2795
01:53:03,709 --> 01:53:01,110
being around the bereaved and those who

2796
01:53:05,870 --> 01:53:03,719
are suffering and you know looking back

2797
01:53:08,689 --> 01:53:05,880
I wouldn't have chose this path but I'm

2798
01:53:10,189 --> 01:53:08,699
glad I'm on the path are you on this

2799
01:53:12,979 --> 01:53:10,199
path because of your father

2800
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:12,989
I am yeah like I said he was the first

2801
01:53:16,069 --> 01:53:14,489
one that passed away and it's because of

2802
01:53:17,689 --> 01:53:16,079
the dreams I had with them that actually

2803
01:53:20,899 --> 01:53:17,699
made me think that this topic was I

2804
01:53:24,169 --> 01:53:20,909
should even look at because if that

2805
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:24,179
person say I I don't and to volunteer

2806
01:53:27,020 --> 01:53:25,290
with the brave do you need to have lost

2807
01:53:28,609 --> 01:53:27,030
someone so I wouldn't have been able to

2808
01:53:30,350 --> 01:53:28,619
even volunteer at the brief to hear some

2809
01:53:34,069 --> 01:53:30,360
of their questions and concerns on the

2810
01:53:36,589 --> 01:53:34,079
topic so yeah that moment in time really

2811
01:53:40,010 --> 01:53:36,599
changed the direction of my life do you

2812
01:53:42,979 --> 01:53:40,020
have brothers and sisters I do I have

2813
01:53:44,660 --> 01:53:42,989
one brother and two sisters in that

2814
01:53:46,189 --> 01:53:44,670
experience so you know in your

2815
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:46,199
experience with them do they talk about

2816
01:53:50,540 --> 01:53:48,210
it have they had any dreams have you had

2817
01:53:52,339 --> 01:53:50,550
some dreams that might be similar do you

2818
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:52,349
get to share your experiences with them

2819
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:54,570
and or can you share any of your

2820
01:53:58,879 --> 01:53:57,210
experiences with them safely here yeah

2821
01:54:00,290 --> 01:53:58,889
it's it's funny because you know

2822
01:54:02,060 --> 01:54:00,300
siblings they don't always have the same

2823
01:54:04,430 --> 01:54:02,070
perspective you do and I think because

2824
01:54:07,819 --> 01:54:04,440
of the environment we were raised in

2825
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:07,829
they have their own their own beliefs

2826
01:54:13,300 --> 01:54:10,250
that really like shed them I guess like

2827
01:54:16,879 --> 01:54:13,310
close them up especially on this topic

2828
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:16,889
and so I've asked and none of them

2829
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:17,970
actually have

2830
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:20,490
and it's interesting to sort of hear

2831
01:54:25,370 --> 01:54:22,770
about you know the reasons if they even

2832
01:54:27,110 --> 01:54:25,380
want one if they don't and I said my dad

2833
01:54:29,090 --> 01:54:27,120
wasn't the most pleasant person so it's

2834
01:54:32,150 --> 01:54:29,100
not like they're I think longing for

2835
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:32,160
these dreams and the reason I should

2836
01:54:36,830 --> 01:54:34,050
share too the reason why I think my

2837
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:36,840
dream was positive and quiet grief so

2838
01:54:42,710 --> 01:54:40,110
much is because after my mom my mom

2839
01:54:44,690 --> 01:54:42,720
separate from my father when I first

2840
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:44,700
started University and so before then I

2841
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:46,560
was angry at my dad and you know I

2842
01:54:51,500 --> 01:54:49,050
didn't care for him just because the way

2843
01:54:55,460 --> 01:54:51,510
he was approaching raising us and stuff

2844
01:54:58,460 --> 01:54:55,470
and so anyways there was a path and what

2845
01:55:01,850 --> 01:54:58,470
happened was after they separated I want

2846
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:01,860
to understand more of his behavior and

2847
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:04,490
why he treated us the way he did and

2848
01:55:09,950 --> 01:55:08,010
from there on out we actually he started

2849
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:09,960
opening up to me a lot about his past

2850
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:13,410
and and it made sense to me on you know

2851
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:15,330
why he was the way he was because of the

2852
01:55:20,780 --> 01:55:18,480
way he was brought up and this was well

2853
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:20,790
he was alive you were yeah when he was

2854
01:55:23,780 --> 01:55:22,560
alive so I started developing a bond

2855
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:23,790
without me and then we started going out

2856
01:55:26,990 --> 01:55:25,440
for dinners and talking going to the

2857
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:27,000
movies and you know taking the hockey

2858
01:55:30,830 --> 01:55:29,370
games and stuff and so I started

2859
01:55:33,410 --> 01:55:30,840
developing a friendship with them that I

2860
01:55:35,420 --> 01:55:33,420
never had as a child so just so I

2861
01:55:37,820 --> 01:55:35,430
started actually bonding with my father

2862
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:37,830
and like at a time and then he passed

2863
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:40,290
away about two years later and so that's

2864
01:55:44,510 --> 01:55:43,170
why it hurt but if we didn't reconnect I

2865
01:55:46,220 --> 01:55:44,520
probably wouldn't had a dream because I

2866
01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:46,230
wouldn't have wanted one right that's

2867
01:55:52,430 --> 01:55:49,440
very positive I know my parents they

2868
01:55:54,050 --> 01:55:52,440
split up as well and I'd heard more

2869
01:55:58,060 --> 01:55:54,060
negative things about him than positive

2870
01:56:00,380 --> 01:55:58,070
things and as I grew up and got into my

2871
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:00,390
20s and moved back here to Calgary where

2872
01:56:04,100 --> 01:56:01,890
he lived I started visiting him on a

2873
01:56:06,740 --> 01:56:04,110
regular basis and really learning the

2874
01:56:11,660 --> 01:56:06,750
real person he was and I feel so

2875
01:56:13,910 --> 01:56:11,670
fortunate for that and so I think my own

2876
01:56:16,970 --> 01:56:13,920
dream about him that made me feel so

2877
01:56:20,690 --> 01:56:16,980
much better because it was like going to

2878
01:56:21,860 --> 01:56:20,700
visit him is reflective of that so I'm

2879
01:56:24,050 --> 01:56:21,870
really glad that you did that

2880
01:56:27,010 --> 01:56:24,060
I'm glad you you also did that and I

2881
01:56:29,060 --> 01:56:27,020
think it takes a lot of courage to to

2882
01:56:31,370 --> 01:56:29,070
stretch your mind and who people are

2883
01:56:33,410 --> 01:56:31,380
because a lot of we get set sometimes in

2884
01:56:36,230 --> 01:56:33,420
our ways and to open your mind sort of

2885
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:36,240
who are they really and it's good if

2886
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:37,650
like my father which was nice that he

2887
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:38,880
really dropped the role of being a

2888
01:56:42,290 --> 01:56:40,770
father he's just started talking as I

2889
01:56:42,530 --> 01:56:42,300
was if it was like a real person you

2890
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:42,540
know

2891
01:56:45,950 --> 01:56:44,610
and I think that's actually was really

2892
01:56:47,630 --> 01:56:45,960
beneficial for me to I don't know if

2893
01:56:49,310 --> 01:56:47,640
you're fathered the same thing where he

2894
01:56:51,650 --> 01:56:49,320
saw you as like an adult and he had like

2895
01:56:52,820 --> 01:56:51,660
adult conversations with you he wasn't

2896
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:52,830
trying to like shed you from the world

2897
01:56:57,620 --> 01:56:54,810
and stuff so I think it took you you

2898
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:57,630
great courage to also go there and take

2899
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:00,000
those steps because a lot of times we

2900
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:02,370
can harden my heart to people and we

2901
01:57:05,420 --> 01:57:03,570
when we have this belief that maybe

2902
01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:05,430
people can't change and so what happens

2903
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:06,960
we just we distance ourselves and we

2904
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:08,850
leave them and then they die and we just

2905
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:11,040
never know who they truly were don't

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Sadashiva black I guess we can relate

3016
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that to my experience with my father he

3017
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and I you know for different reasons

3018
02:02:14,100 --> 02:02:12,280
which were complicated weren't very

3019
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friendly for a while and then we kind of

3020
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hooked up again and when my wife and I

3021
02:02:22,350 --> 02:02:18,880
had a son we would visit him and his

3022
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second wife my stepmother and we had

3023
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pleasant times he'd buy us dinner all

3024
02:02:30,300 --> 02:02:27,940
the time and then one evening the day

3025
02:02:31,980 --> 02:02:30,310
before my birthday he calls me on the

3026
02:02:35,190 --> 02:02:31,990
phone and usually our phone

3027
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:35,200
conversations 4/32 affairs and this time

3028
02:02:40,050 --> 02:02:37,810
he went on for five or ten minutes as if

3029
02:02:42,750 --> 02:02:40,060
he really needed to say things to me the

3030
02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:42,760
next day probably 24 hours on my

3031
02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:46,000
birthday he died and it was not

3032
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:47,560
something like he suffered from some

3033
02:02:51,690 --> 02:02:49,210
kind of illness or something he was just

3034
02:02:54,330 --> 02:02:51,700
shy of a 79th birthday he was playing

3035
02:02:55,710 --> 02:02:54,340
cards with his friends and he had a

3036
02:02:57,210 --> 02:02:55,720
heart attack and that was it

3037
02:03:00,240 --> 02:02:57,220
of course I guess if you're going to die

3038
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:00,250
do it fast and he did it fast it's just

3039
02:03:04,770 --> 02:03:02,590
a strange coincidence that the day

3040
02:03:08,570 --> 02:03:04,780
before he's calling me as if maybe he

3041
02:03:13,260 --> 02:03:08,580
knew and then he dies on my birthday

3042
02:03:15,450 --> 02:03:13,270
Wow Wow how was that for you like like

3043
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does it like now that you're grown up

3044
02:03:18,810 --> 02:03:16,810
and you have these birthdays does it

3045
02:03:20,490 --> 02:03:18,820
does it actually was it monumental

3046
02:03:21,810 --> 02:03:20,500
anyway to trigger like when you have a

3047
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:21,820
birthday's coming up now does it trigger

3048
02:03:28,260 --> 02:03:25,570
stop I was an adult yeah he was just I

3049
02:03:31,890 --> 02:03:28,270
have a 79th birthday so you know we

3050
02:03:34,590 --> 02:03:31,900
already had a son and therefore it

3051
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:34,600
wasn't something where I'm experiencing

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02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:37,330
this as a child I'm experiencing this as

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02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:41,770
an adult and seeing him in his final

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02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:44,290
years it just it all sort of came

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02:03:51,230 --> 02:03:46,810
together there that happened that way of

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all the days that one can choose to die

3057
02:03:58,320 --> 02:03:55,680
unexpectedly and that was a day well

3058
02:03:59,969 --> 02:03:58,330
yeah like that's another topic gray like

3059
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when people die

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02:04:04,859 --> 02:04:02,499
and you hear stories and it's just it's

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someone just passed away Louise hey if

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you know or not

3063
02:04:10,739 --> 02:04:08,709
she's big in the spiritual work anyway

3064
02:04:13,140 --> 02:04:10,749
she had a good friend dr. Wayne Dyer and

3065
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they both passed away so Wayne Dyer

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passed thing two years ago and then she

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02:04:19,979 --> 02:04:17,949
passed away just this year but on the

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same day and like they're good friends

3069
02:04:23,969 --> 02:04:21,340
and so you're just like it's just very

3070
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interesting when people die if people

3071
02:04:28,229 --> 02:04:25,690
can control that you know that's

3072
02:04:31,589 --> 02:04:28,239
something I I soon you know one day

3073
02:04:34,290 --> 02:04:31,599
we'll find out as I get up there or as

3074
02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:34,300
it happens to me so are you the oldest

3075
02:04:39,750 --> 02:04:36,400
amongst your siblings or where do you

3076
02:04:42,709 --> 02:04:39,760
fit I am in I guess the the middle so

3077
02:04:45,779 --> 02:04:42,719
I'm the so yes I'll get a third child

3078
02:04:48,870 --> 02:04:45,789
okay so it's interesting doing this and

3079
02:04:50,399 --> 02:04:48,880
doing the post education stuff because

3080
02:04:51,899 --> 02:04:50,409
they haven't really done that aspect

3081
02:04:54,540 --> 02:04:51,909
either so it's just it's a learning

3082
02:04:56,279 --> 02:04:54,550
curve moving forward but you know like I

3083
02:04:58,620 --> 02:04:56,289
get a lot of support maybe not too much

3084
02:05:01,319 --> 02:04:58,630
from them my mom's very supportive which

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is really nice in this area but just to

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02:05:05,100 --> 02:05:02,829
see the support for other people really

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02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:05,110
gives me the motivation to continue and

3088
02:05:09,870 --> 02:05:07,090
do this because it's a it's a tough

3089
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journey like going through I know all

3090
02:05:13,949 --> 02:05:12,280
this all the hoops and all the struggles

3091
02:05:16,109 --> 02:05:13,959
and you know financial sort of stress

3092
02:05:18,449 --> 02:05:16,119
and stuff to really do what you need to

3093
02:05:20,279 --> 02:05:18,459
do and what you feel desire to do so I'm

3094
02:05:21,839 --> 02:05:20,289
just glad for you say even you guys to

3095
02:05:23,609 --> 02:05:21,849
have me on to sort of talk about the

3096
02:05:25,709 --> 02:05:23,619
subject and and share some of this

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02:05:28,589 --> 02:05:25,719
information because without you know you

3098
02:05:31,620 --> 02:05:28,599
guys my research and the topic were just

3099
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like sitting in a drawer somewhere what

3100
02:05:36,060 --> 02:05:33,670
does your family think of what you do so

3101
02:05:39,479 --> 02:05:36,070
my mom was very supportive she hasn't

3102
02:05:42,270 --> 02:05:39,489
had her dream any dreams of my dad but

3103
02:05:43,770 --> 02:05:42,280
she has had a dream of someone else that

3104
02:05:46,290 --> 02:05:43,780
passed away and she thought was

3105
02:05:48,540 --> 02:05:46,300
comforting but other not like you know

3106
02:05:49,919 --> 02:05:48,550
like we're just you know people you know

3107
02:05:52,620 --> 02:05:49,929
like you don't get to choose your family

3108
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:52,630
yes so they're not like you know we

3109
02:05:55,709 --> 02:05:54,610
don't I don't see them all the time but

3110
02:05:57,509 --> 02:05:55,719
they are you know in their own way

3111
02:05:59,399 --> 02:05:57,519
they're very loving and have kids why I

3112
02:06:02,310 --> 02:05:59,409
go I go see them but we don't really

3113
02:06:04,379 --> 02:06:02,320
talk about this subject we'll just talk

3114
02:06:07,529 --> 02:06:04,389
about you know you know everyday life

3115
02:06:09,839 --> 02:06:07,539
what's going on surface stuff but

3116
02:06:11,729 --> 02:06:09,849
nothing like too deep that we're talking

3117
02:06:14,190 --> 02:06:11,739
about now having those in-depth

3118
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:14,200
conversations so I'll ah

3119
02:06:18,420 --> 02:06:15,850
but you know like they're not you have

3120
02:06:20,459 --> 02:06:18,430
to like know when when your topics want

3121
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:20,469
it and when it's not and so at the end

3122
02:06:23,700 --> 02:06:21,850
of it that's why I say I'm just glad for

3123
02:06:26,010 --> 02:06:23,710
other people to really value a what I'm

3124
02:06:29,010 --> 02:06:26,020
doing is what about the colleagues you

3125
02:06:30,690 --> 02:06:29,020
work with they do it's like they've some

3126
02:06:33,930 --> 02:06:30,700
of them had their own their own dream so

3127
02:06:34,530 --> 02:06:33,940
they they like what I'm doing and my

3128
02:06:36,209 --> 02:06:34,540
supervisor

3129
02:06:38,490 --> 02:06:36,219
loves I'm doing and and she really

3130
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:38,500
brought me on which is I think so

3131
02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:39,730
amazing because without her and without

3132
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:41,440
Brock University I wouldn't be able to

3133
02:06:44,580 --> 02:06:43,090
do this and so it's not just me it's

3134
02:06:46,680 --> 02:06:44,590
like I needed people to say yeah let's

3135
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:46,690
let's actually test it scientifically

3136
02:06:52,890 --> 02:06:50,890
and give me a chance and they have I

3137
02:06:55,020 --> 02:06:52,900
think that's amazing so people in the

3138
02:06:58,560 --> 02:06:55,030
department they seem to actually enjoy

3139
02:07:00,240 --> 02:06:58,570
and I think first it was they didn't

3140
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:00,250
really know but the more I talk about it

3141
02:07:03,780 --> 02:07:02,530
the more I do this media stuff they

3142
02:07:06,180 --> 02:07:03,790
really see the benefit of it especially

3143
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:06,190
the media stuff and you're most people

3144
02:07:11,190 --> 02:07:08,650
in the ph.d program don't ever go on

3145
02:07:13,740 --> 02:07:11,200
radio or try to like promote the

3146
02:07:14,790 --> 02:07:13,750
research in different ways but I really

3147
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:14,800
tried it because I'm trying to normalize

3148
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:16,210
his experience and get the information

3149
02:07:20,790 --> 02:07:18,250
out and that's why I started like at the

3150
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:20,800
website group 3 MCA just as a way to

3151
02:07:24,750 --> 02:07:23,050
bring people together to ask questions

3152
02:07:27,540 --> 02:07:24,760
to find the research that's on there and

3153
02:07:29,670 --> 02:07:27,550
to be able to contact me and if they

3154
02:07:31,890 --> 02:07:29,680
have any questions and so I feel like

3155
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:31,900
that really pushes them I think it's not

3156
02:07:35,070 --> 02:07:33,370
really more about the topic but I think

3157
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:35,080
that social media is really stretching

3158
02:07:39,570 --> 02:07:37,930
the academic community at Brock to do

3159
02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:39,580
more with their research yeah that's a

3160
02:07:45,030 --> 02:07:41,110
pretty good looking website it's well

3161
02:07:49,110 --> 02:07:45,040
put together it's so yeah I did it

3162
02:07:50,729 --> 02:07:49,120
myself I just like playing around but

3163
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:50,739
yeah that's the the first draft I guess

3164
02:07:55,890 --> 02:07:53,410
yeah very good is this done in WordPress

3165
02:07:58,860 --> 02:07:55,900
or what it's done in Squarespace Oh

3166
02:08:01,470 --> 02:07:58,870
so use a template it's a CMS thing I'm

3167
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:01,480
assuming but it looks good thank you

3168
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:05,130
I'm gonna get this question and yet okay

3169
02:08:11,459 --> 02:08:08,650
what is your thesis about so it's

3170
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:11,469
exactly can you exactly okay so I'm

3171
02:08:15,660 --> 02:08:13,530
looking at a couple questions but it's

3172
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:15,670
specifically on dreaming of the deceased

3173
02:08:19,470 --> 02:08:18,370
so my first two studies was looking at

3174
02:08:21,810 --> 02:08:19,480
what factors predict

3175
02:08:24,540 --> 02:08:21,820
dreaming of the deceased and then my

3176
02:08:26,430 --> 02:08:24,550
next one's will be also on what factors

3177
02:08:27,100 --> 02:08:26,440
protect a positive being works is a

3178
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:27,110
negative

3179
02:08:32,650 --> 02:08:29,690
and within that I'm also looking at what

3180
02:08:34,420 --> 02:08:32,660
themes people are having and the

3181
02:08:36,100 --> 02:08:34,430
frequency of those themes and so as I

3182
02:08:38,050 --> 02:08:36,110
was saying for the most part people

3183
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:38,060
having these positive themes over these

3184
02:08:41,020 --> 02:08:39,770
negative dreams and that was interesting

3185
02:08:43,210 --> 02:08:41,030
this first time I actually looked at

3186
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:43,220
that to say okay yes these are these

3187
02:08:47,650 --> 02:08:45,290
common themes but how many people are

3188
02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:47,660
actually having these versus not and so

3189
02:08:50,830 --> 02:08:48,650
most people have needs comfort

3190
02:08:52,450 --> 02:08:50,840
comforting themes over and above these

3191
02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:52,460
negatives saying things like 90% of

3192
02:08:58,450 --> 02:08:55,130
people who have reported reinstated they

3193
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:58,460
had a comfort theme and people who and a

3194
02:09:01,990 --> 02:09:00,800
negative theme was around 40% I think

3195
02:09:04,150 --> 02:09:02,000
that's really interesting and those

3196
02:09:05,620 --> 02:09:04,160
forty percent of people most of people I

3197
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:05,630
think thirty eight percent or thirty

3198
02:09:09,250 --> 02:09:07,370
five percent had also a positive dream

3199
02:09:10,570 --> 02:09:09,260
and so now it's really like fine

3200
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:10,580
tweeting and say okay why is someone

3201
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:12,170
having a negative dream does it really

3202
02:09:16,660 --> 02:09:14,450
to their grief and it was really - maybe

3203
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:16,670
trauma symptoms like maybe they saw you

3204
02:09:19,960 --> 02:09:18,530
know it was a traumatic loss or maybe

3205
02:09:21,370 --> 02:09:19,970
they have guilt you know so really

3206
02:09:24,190 --> 02:09:21,380
trying to understand the dream imagery

3207
02:09:25,630 --> 02:09:24,200
is also a part so that's sort of the the

3208
02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:25,640
dissertation is a bunch of these studies

3209
02:09:29,860 --> 02:09:27,410
I think the five studies in total on

3210
02:09:33,310 --> 02:09:29,870
different samples of braved individuals

3211
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:33,320
from disposal to pet loss and the

3212
02:09:37,930 --> 02:09:35,690
miscarriage do you personally talk to

3213
02:09:41,710 --> 02:09:37,940
these people or do you pick up research

3214
02:09:43,630 --> 02:09:41,720
papers so I'll mostly the it's just you

3215
02:09:45,490 --> 02:09:43,640
do the study I don't have any contact

3216
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:45,500
with them so it's not what I want

3217
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:48,530
interviews so it'd be through a program

3218
02:09:53,500 --> 02:09:50,480
that we have that collects data through

3219
02:09:55,690 --> 02:09:53,510
the internet in my MA it was people had

3220
02:09:57,730 --> 02:09:55,700
actually contact me and I gave them sort

3221
02:09:59,440 --> 02:09:57,740
of the not the questionnaires to fill

3222
02:10:01,210 --> 02:09:59,450
out and that's when they put in their

3223
02:10:03,490 --> 02:10:01,220
dreams and stuff like that but it's when

3224
02:10:04,900 --> 02:10:03,500
I do the workshops people tell me about

3225
02:10:08,050 --> 02:10:04,910
their dreams and be able to talk to them

3226
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:08,060
in more detail when I do that or people

3227
02:10:13,030 --> 02:10:10,490
email me I am able to talk to them and

3228
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get more detail about you know what

3229
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these dreams mean to them we got more to

3230
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3231
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3256
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3257
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3258
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loved one has taken invokana invoke

3259
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comet or invoke comet XR or other

3260
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inhibitors for type 2 diabetes and

3261
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suffered amputation of the toes feet or

3262
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3263
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3264
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3267
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3268
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3269
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3270
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3271
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3282
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dollars for hearing aids I call it

3283
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outrageous because hearing should not be

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3311
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3313
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3314
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there loss of energy

3315
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3316
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circulation and irregular heartbeat are

3317
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3339
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3340
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3341
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3343
02:15:05,020 --> 02:15:02,709
okay so just a question here that occurs

3344
02:15:08,439 --> 02:15:05,030
from this that your research is coming

3345
02:15:10,600 --> 02:15:08,449
from mostly third party sources you're

3346
02:15:13,089 --> 02:15:10,610
not personally validating this

3347
02:15:16,239 --> 02:15:13,099
information before you put it in your

3348
02:15:17,739 --> 02:15:16,249
study well it's coming from them and

3349
02:15:19,870 --> 02:15:17,749
that's the best we can do with

3350
02:15:22,540 --> 02:15:19,880
questionnaire data right like they're

3351
02:15:23,890 --> 02:15:22,550
telling me their best that they're

3352
02:15:25,719 --> 02:15:23,900
telling me what they think when it comes

3353
02:15:28,270 --> 02:15:25,729
to this questionnaire we always serve

3354
02:15:29,919 --> 02:15:28,280
it's hard to sort of get the truth I

3355
02:15:31,299 --> 02:15:29,929
guess you could say because what they

3356
02:15:33,129 --> 02:15:31,309
like people ask would they be lying

3357
02:15:35,049 --> 02:15:33,139
would they not be this is the best we

3358
02:15:37,149 --> 02:15:35,059
got unless we can actually see these

3359
02:15:39,129 --> 02:15:37,159
dreams in a lab and then we can actually

3360
02:15:40,689 --> 02:15:39,139
know for sure what they're having how

3361
02:15:42,669 --> 02:15:40,699
long they are what kind of theme they

3362
02:15:45,489 --> 02:15:42,679
are but until then this is sort of the

3363
02:15:48,339 --> 02:15:45,499
best we can do with what we got but

3364
02:15:50,589 --> 02:15:48,349
wouldn't it be better to spend more time

3365
02:15:52,449 --> 02:15:50,599
talking to people get a sense of what

3366
02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:52,459
they're saying because it's very

3367
02:15:57,279 --> 02:15:54,170
impersonal to fill out a questionnaire

3368
02:15:59,080 --> 02:15:57,289
or a reason buddies report it is but

3369
02:16:01,629 --> 02:15:59,090
it's the best we can you know I for me

3370
02:16:03,549 --> 02:16:01,639
that's a way to gather a large amount of

3371
02:16:05,640 --> 02:16:03,559
data and you need large amount of data

3372
02:16:08,949 --> 02:16:05,650
to do the analyses that we're doing and

3373
02:16:11,770 --> 02:16:08,959
more than one on one type of interviews

3374
02:16:13,540 --> 02:16:11,780
even though the questionnaire it says

3375
02:16:14,799 --> 02:16:13,550
you know your dream and all that other

3376
02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:14,809
sort of stuff there's also a feedback

3377
02:16:18,189 --> 02:16:16,880
thing so people can write about if they

3378
02:16:19,779 --> 02:16:18,199
want to write about they're the loved

3379
02:16:22,029 --> 02:16:19,789
ones more and a lot of people actually

3380
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:22,039
after taking the questionnaire actually

3381
02:16:26,290 --> 02:16:24,650
thanked us which is unheard of when it

3382
02:16:28,839 --> 02:16:26,300
comes to doing scientific research

3383
02:16:30,910 --> 02:16:28,849
people aren't really thanking you that

3384
02:16:32,320 --> 02:16:30,920
much but these people are so actually I

3385
02:16:34,929 --> 02:16:32,330
think the way we're asking the questions

3386
02:16:37,689 --> 02:16:34,939
the way we set up our consent form and

3387
02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:37,699
also the debriefing form really validate

3388
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:39,170
this off Nate I think it normalizes

3389
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:40,370
experience for them and give an

3390
02:16:44,410 --> 02:16:42,410
understanding of why we're doing what

3391
02:16:45,790 --> 02:16:44,420
we're doing and it can help them out and

3392
02:16:47,919 --> 02:16:45,800
say if they ever have any questions they

3393
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:47,929
always contact us and we can talk that

3394
02:16:51,910 --> 02:16:50,210
way after I sort of like the data is in

3395
02:16:52,990 --> 02:16:51,920
but that's why I like doing these

3396
02:16:54,729 --> 02:16:53,000
workshops and talking to people

3397
02:16:57,280 --> 02:16:54,739
one-on-one like you get a different

3398
02:16:58,750 --> 02:16:57,290
sense of the data and this is a

3399
02:17:00,700 --> 02:16:58,760
difference between like quantitative and

3400
02:17:02,679 --> 02:17:00,710
qualitative research you know and here

3401
02:17:04,629 --> 02:17:02,689
we are right so this I you gotta have

3402
02:17:06,099 --> 02:17:04,639
both and that's what I love by talking

3403
02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:06,109
these people even though I mean I'll be

3404
02:17:08,559 --> 02:17:07,010
able to publish it

3405
02:17:10,689 --> 02:17:08,569
I can still understand what their

3406
02:17:12,580 --> 02:17:10,699
concerns are what benefits them what

3407
02:17:14,889 --> 02:17:12,590
doesn't and I can actually put that in

3408
02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:14,899
- some of my studies in some way and in

3409
02:17:19,150 --> 02:17:17,450
the context of these studies just to be

3410
02:17:21,820 --> 02:17:19,160
clear again here when you're talking

3411
02:17:26,679 --> 02:17:21,830
about positive versus negative you're

3412
02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:26,689
talking about what is in the mind of the

3413
02:17:31,570 --> 02:17:29,840
experience or something that is positive

3414
02:17:33,219 --> 02:17:31,580
in other words that it makes them feel

3415
02:17:36,969 --> 02:17:33,229
better or gives them some sense of

3416
02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:36,979
comfort or relief from the negative or

3417
02:17:41,740 --> 02:17:39,410
uncomfortable emotional feelings that

3418
02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:41,750
they experience during grief is have I

3419
02:17:44,589 --> 02:17:42,530
got that right

3420
02:17:46,959 --> 02:17:44,599
it's part of it it's it's more of the

3421
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:46,969
theme so remember the dead dying and ill

3422
02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:48,889
theme and the discomfort theme that I

3423
02:17:53,410 --> 02:17:51,530
shared well I asked those questions in

3424
02:17:55,570 --> 02:17:53,420
the questionnaire and so putting those

3425
02:17:57,610 --> 02:17:55,580
two frequencies together that's a

3426
02:17:59,860 --> 02:17:57,620
negative theme and then similarly for

3427
02:18:03,009 --> 02:17:59,870
the comfort and the healthy and happy

3428
02:18:04,660 --> 02:18:03,019
those are positive images and themes and

3429
02:18:07,839 --> 02:18:04,670
so I put those together so that's how I

3430
02:18:11,020 --> 02:18:07,849
made up the negative is positive so it's

3431
02:18:13,389 --> 02:18:11,030
some people can have a negative or

3432
02:18:15,490 --> 02:18:13,399
positive theme and think it's negative

3433
02:18:17,740 --> 02:18:15,500
in nature but it's more about the what's

3434
02:18:20,620 --> 02:18:17,750
going on in the dream then what occurs

3435
02:18:22,570 --> 02:18:20,630
to me here is do you take a lot of

3436
02:18:24,759 --> 02:18:22,580
demographic information about a person's

3437
02:18:27,370 --> 02:18:24,769
background when you collect these

3438
02:18:29,500 --> 02:18:27,380
experiences okay so do you find that

3439
02:18:33,400 --> 02:18:29,510
particular religions or lack of

3440
02:18:36,790 --> 02:18:33,410
religious belief has any impact whatever

3441
02:18:39,099 --> 02:18:36,800
specific age groups male/female where

3442
02:18:41,410 --> 02:18:39,109
they come from originally yeah and this

3443
02:18:43,690 --> 02:18:41,420
is interesting and the answer's no so

3444
02:18:46,419 --> 02:18:43,700
for what factors uniquely predict

3445
02:18:48,280 --> 02:18:46,429
dreaming of deceased the age has nothing

3446
02:18:50,020 --> 02:18:48,290
to do with a gender we looked at

3447
02:18:52,509 --> 02:18:50,030
intrinsic Willa's religiosity has

3448
02:18:55,719 --> 02:18:52,519
nothing to do with it and so it's very

3449
02:18:58,870 --> 02:18:55,729
interesting how people from all ages all

3450
02:19:00,370 --> 02:18:58,880
cultures all religions are more or less

3451
02:19:02,709 --> 02:19:00,380
having these experiences and in a

3452
02:19:04,480 --> 02:19:02,719
similar fashion I think that's really

3453
02:19:07,060 --> 02:19:04,490
interesting it'd be cool to get more

3454
02:19:08,200 --> 02:19:07,070
data on this to validate the the

3455
02:19:10,570 --> 02:19:08,210
research because it's like one of the

3456
02:19:12,310 --> 02:19:10,580
first studies that are out but yeah it

3457
02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:12,320
seems like that is everyone's happening

3458
02:19:15,310 --> 02:19:13,969
I think the types of dreams these people

3459
02:19:18,700 --> 02:19:15,320
have are probably different based on

3460
02:19:22,660 --> 02:19:18,710
their loss and so just for example if a

3461
02:19:25,540 --> 02:19:22,670
a mother loses a child their dreams

3462
02:19:28,030 --> 02:19:25,550
would be a little different than if a

3463
02:19:30,309 --> 02:19:28,040
you lose a spouse and I just want to

3464
02:19:31,389 --> 02:19:30,319
like get this in there quick just

3465
02:19:34,719 --> 02:19:31,399
because it's I think it's very

3466
02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:34,729
interesting so usually when we dream or

3467
02:19:37,900 --> 02:19:36,410
reduce loved ones they tend to be the

3468
02:19:40,480 --> 02:19:37,910
same age when they passed away like an

3469
02:19:43,270 --> 02:19:40,490
adult sometimes if they die when they're

3470
02:19:46,509 --> 02:19:43,280
older they'll will have dreams where the

3471
02:19:49,690 --> 02:19:46,519
deceased is younger but healthier but

3472
02:19:52,330 --> 02:19:49,700
when it comes to children a lot of

3473
02:19:53,950 --> 02:19:52,340
people say if when they dream of their

3474
02:19:57,250 --> 02:19:53,960
children they dream as though they're

3475
02:19:59,080 --> 02:19:57,260
aged so if they die at two in two years

3476
02:20:00,910 --> 02:19:59,090
or dreaming about them the dream of them

3477
02:20:03,130 --> 02:20:00,920
as if there were four and so I think

3478
02:20:05,410 --> 02:20:03,140
it's very interesting just like so the

3479
02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:05,420
type of loss has an impact in the themes

3480
02:20:10,050 --> 02:20:07,840
that occur but yeah all the other

3481
02:20:14,349 --> 02:20:10,060
demographics don't really have any

3482
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:14,359
influence right now interesting oh is

3483
02:20:18,280 --> 02:20:16,160
this going to ask okay there does seem

3484
02:20:20,830 --> 02:20:18,290
to be a correlation between how well a

3485
02:20:23,080 --> 02:20:20,840
person knows the person that they're

3486
02:20:24,760 --> 02:20:23,090
dreaming about or the type of the

3487
02:20:27,250 --> 02:20:24,770
strength of the relationship that they'd

3488
02:20:29,610 --> 02:20:27,260
had but you know I've heard a few

3489
02:20:33,219 --> 02:20:29,620
stories from people who say they've

3490
02:20:36,550 --> 02:20:33,229
dreamt about somebody who they didn't

3491
02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:36,560
know who they were and they woke up and

3492
02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:39,770
they go down to the kitchen and all of a

3493
02:20:43,900 --> 02:20:42,170
sudden you know they're seeing their

3494
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:43,910
parent you know that was looking very

3495
02:20:48,610 --> 02:20:46,130
sad at the coffee table and asked him

3496
02:20:50,980 --> 02:20:48,620
what happened and and you know it's

3497
02:20:52,450 --> 02:20:50,990
somebody that they didn't know that was

3498
02:20:56,050 --> 02:20:52,460
part of the family and extended family

3499
02:20:58,719 --> 02:20:56,060
that has had passed away so I mean how

3500
02:21:00,610 --> 02:20:58,729
do we how do we reconcile those kinds of

3501
02:21:02,380 --> 02:21:00,620
things I mean the person that had this

3502
02:21:04,450 --> 02:21:02,390
one dream that I was I've described a

3503
02:21:06,429 --> 02:21:04,460
person to a tee had never met them

3504
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:06,439
before and their parent just looked at

3505
02:21:11,320 --> 02:21:08,720
them and said you know that's that's

3506
02:21:14,920 --> 02:21:11,330
your granddad so-and-so

3507
02:21:17,170 --> 02:21:14,930
Wow that's why I like that I said oh you

3508
02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:17,180
just like those dreams really you don't

3509
02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:19,760
know like it could be that I could be

3510
02:21:23,679 --> 02:21:21,410
like the memory thing maybe they talked

3511
02:21:26,290 --> 02:21:23,689
about her sob picture it could be that

3512
02:21:28,090 --> 02:21:26,300
it was an actual visitation or it could

3513
02:21:30,790 --> 02:21:28,100
be their picking up some type of

3514
02:21:32,679 --> 02:21:30,800
telepathy from the parent so the parent

3515
02:21:34,330 --> 02:21:32,689
would have known and so maybe they're

3516
02:21:36,219 --> 02:21:34,340
picking up that kind of imagery from the

3517
02:21:38,020 --> 02:21:36,229
parent you know I don't I don't know but

3518
02:21:38,881 --> 02:21:38,030
it's just very interesting to even talk

3519
02:21:41,251 --> 02:21:38,891
about

3520
02:21:43,350 --> 02:21:41,261
yeah well with telepathy of course now

3521
02:21:46,591 --> 02:21:43,360
we're getting out into that sort of woo

3522
02:21:49,950 --> 02:21:46,601
space but you know I think that we have

3523
02:21:54,060 --> 02:21:49,960
to accept no matter what we look at it

3524
02:21:54,660 --> 02:21:54,070
some sort of information is it is taking

3525
02:21:56,310 --> 02:21:54,670
place

3526
02:21:59,011 --> 02:21:56,320
these people are acquiring information

3527
02:22:01,711 --> 02:21:59,021
in their mind that corresponds

3528
02:22:04,591 --> 02:22:01,721
accurately to some situation that

3529
02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:04,601
they're not normally familiar with so

3530
02:22:11,190 --> 02:22:08,530
the question is what becomes the method

3531
02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:11,200
of information transfer and of course

3532
02:22:16,381 --> 02:22:13,360
something like telepathy actually

3533
02:22:17,700 --> 02:22:16,391
doesn't seem all that unreasonable when

3534
02:22:19,910 --> 02:22:17,710
we consider that our minds are

3535
02:22:25,171 --> 02:22:19,920
transmitters and receivers of various

3536
02:22:26,430 --> 02:22:25,181
frequencies of measurable AM radiation I

3537
02:22:28,410 --> 02:22:26,440
don't know how to explain it

3538
02:22:30,410 --> 02:22:28,420
scientifically but I mean I don't think

3539
02:22:35,041 --> 02:22:30,420
that's beyond the realm of some sort of

3540
02:22:37,261 --> 02:22:35,051
rational questioning no I like telepathy

3541
02:22:39,841 --> 02:22:37,271
you should be able to I think

3542
02:22:40,860 --> 02:22:39,851
investigate that a little bit better but

3543
02:22:42,450 --> 02:22:40,870
when it comes to dreams it's hard to

3544
02:22:44,850 --> 02:22:42,460
catch them right like if you could if

3545
02:22:48,030 --> 02:22:44,860
you could have the experience of that

3546
02:22:50,430 --> 02:22:48,040
and catch it in a lab setting well then

3547
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:50,440
it'd be easy the problem is they don't

3548
02:22:55,440 --> 02:22:53,530
happen we want them to right and so it's

3549
02:22:58,291 --> 02:22:55,450
because they're you could say random

3550
02:23:01,791 --> 02:22:58,301
that it'd be very difficult to study the

3551
02:23:04,980 --> 02:23:01,801
topic itself but if somebody has

3552
02:23:07,560 --> 02:23:04,990
frequent dreams of this nature can you

3553
02:23:08,940 --> 02:23:07,570
SAP a lab study where you observe them

3554
02:23:11,640 --> 02:23:08,950
when they're sleeping to see what kind

3555
02:23:12,990 --> 02:23:11,650
of measurements you can take oh yeah you

3556
02:23:15,631 --> 02:23:13,000
definitely could I would love to

3557
02:23:17,700 --> 02:23:15,641
actually be a part of that study but

3558
02:23:18,631 --> 02:23:17,710
when it comes to what I've been finding

3559
02:23:20,761 --> 02:23:18,641
out when it comes to these dreams

3560
02:23:22,770 --> 02:23:20,771
they're very very like some people will

3561
02:23:25,410 --> 02:23:22,780
have one dream their entire life other

3562
02:23:28,350 --> 02:23:25,420
people will be more frequent but it's

3563
02:23:31,740 --> 02:23:28,360
not every night and so you know it costs

3564
02:23:33,120 --> 02:23:31,750
a lot to run a lab I said sleep lab and

3565
02:23:35,461 --> 02:23:33,130
then to have them come in and try to

3566
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:35,471
catch it and say it'll be tough but I

3567
02:23:40,020 --> 02:23:37,210
think for those people who dream of them

3568
02:23:41,551 --> 02:23:40,030
very frequently it could be done and to

3569
02:23:43,110 --> 02:23:41,561
sort of see what's going on but then

3570
02:23:44,850 --> 02:23:43,120
again when it comes to these dreams

3571
02:23:46,650 --> 02:23:44,860
these dreams are different not all

3572
02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:46,660
dreams are the seats of the same some

3573
02:23:51,001 --> 02:23:49,210
are more vivid more real and have a

3574
02:23:52,531 --> 02:23:51,011
different quality to them

3575
02:23:54,031 --> 02:23:52,541
and some of them are just you know there

3576
02:23:55,441 --> 02:23:54,041
in the background and it is part of the

3577
02:23:58,441 --> 02:23:55,451
dream imagery and they don't have that

3578
02:24:00,180 --> 02:23:58,451
sort of emotional appeal or emotional

3579
02:24:01,981 --> 02:24:00,190
sort of arousal that they get when they

3580
02:24:04,881 --> 02:24:01,991
wake up and so it's like trying to

3581
02:24:07,770 --> 02:24:04,891
really differentiate those two types or

3582
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main dreams that people report when it

3583
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comes to this so it's definitely it can

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be done it's just we need money and you

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so Joshua black is with us and we were

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talking about the possibilities of a

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labs around most dream research is uses

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questionnaires just because it's easier

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and it's more cost efficient but yeah

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there is

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you know I guess people who run dream

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studies and they look at you know

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different aspects of the dreams but they

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haven't looked at this area and so you

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know maybe they want to look at this

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area that'd be cool I'd be more than

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happy to see that happen as I say like I

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don't want to be the only one in this

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field I want this to actually start a

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movement in some way to try to get

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answers and try to find more of what's

3714
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what's going on because I'm really

3715
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curious just what's going on in the

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brain when it happens to these there's

3717
02:29:51,739 --> 02:29:50,100
two different types of Dreams that makes

3718
02:29:53,449 --> 02:29:51,749
me interested in that something I would

3719
02:29:55,429 --> 02:29:53,459
love to figure out if we could catch

3720
02:29:58,609 --> 02:29:55,439
those two things but as I said like

3721
02:30:01,219 --> 02:29:58,619
they're not that easy to track the

3722
02:30:02,779 --> 02:30:01,229
research is very minimal for what we

3723
02:30:05,239 --> 02:30:02,789
need to know to know when these dreams

3724
02:30:07,909 --> 02:30:05,249
may be occur has anyone thought to

3725
02:30:10,550 --> 02:30:07,919
consider whether the people who have

3726
02:30:12,559 --> 02:30:10,560
these dreams more frequently have other

3727
02:30:15,739 --> 02:30:12,569
experiences paranormal experiences

3728
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:15,749
seeing strange things in the sky ghosts

3729
02:30:19,760 --> 02:30:17,850
things like that oh great question

3730
02:30:21,260 --> 02:30:19,770
there's a good question no I think

3731
02:30:24,290 --> 02:30:21,270
you're the first one to ask me that so

3732
02:30:27,439 --> 02:30:24,300
congratulations and so if only we could

3733
02:30:29,869 --> 02:30:27,449
fund you to do some research life would

3734
02:30:31,309 --> 02:30:29,879
be easier but no I said like when I say

3735
02:30:33,710 --> 02:30:31,319
there's not a lot of research there's

3736
02:30:35,929 --> 02:30:33,720
really not a lot of research and so I'm

3737
02:30:38,540 --> 02:30:35,939
really starting at the bare minimum like

3738
02:30:40,130 --> 02:30:38,550
are there themes that are common like or

3739
02:30:41,960 --> 02:30:40,140
is it even common to have these dreams

3740
02:30:43,969 --> 02:30:41,970
for the breed like this is very like

3741
02:30:45,619 --> 02:30:43,979
simple stuff like why are some dreams

3742
02:30:48,260 --> 02:30:45,629
pause in a like this should have been

3743
02:30:49,880 --> 02:30:48,270
asked you know 40 years ago but like for

3744
02:30:51,889 --> 02:30:49,890
whatever reason we're just starting to

3745
02:30:54,170 --> 02:30:51,899
sort of get that information out now so

3746
02:30:55,849 --> 02:30:54,180
I think after this comes out then we

3747
02:30:57,949 --> 02:30:55,859
start looking at more of those other

3748
02:31:00,349 --> 02:30:57,959
connections and okay like who else is

3749
02:31:02,869 --> 02:31:00,359
having these experiences and does that

3750
02:31:05,540 --> 02:31:02,879
maybe predict true me of the deceased

3751
02:31:08,119 --> 02:31:05,550
I don't know bye no dream recall is a

3752
02:31:11,479 --> 02:31:08,129
big predictor of that have you heard of

3753
02:31:12,649 --> 02:31:11,489
Michael Persinger no oh well this is

3754
02:31:16,001 --> 02:31:12,659
something that you should definitely

3755
02:31:19,451 --> 02:31:16,011
check into he's neuroscientist loss

3756
02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:19,461
he thinks that all phenomena including

3757
02:31:23,230 --> 02:31:21,410
consciousness and spiritual experiences

3758
02:31:25,841 --> 02:31:23,240
and paranormal events can be explained

3759
02:31:28,001 --> 02:31:25,851
by universal physical mechanisms that

3760
02:31:31,240 --> 02:31:28,011
can be studied using the scientific

3761
02:31:32,860 --> 02:31:31,250
method he created something that sort of

3762
02:31:36,461 --> 02:31:32,870
loosely referred to as the god helmet

3763
02:31:39,131 --> 02:31:36,471
that actually puts e/m waves through

3764
02:31:42,131 --> 02:31:39,141
people's brains in his experiments

3765
02:31:44,591 --> 02:31:42,141
people actually can see in some cases

3766
02:31:46,961 --> 02:31:44,601
their dead relatives standing before

3767
02:31:50,081 --> 02:31:46,971
them as clearly as if they were really

3768
02:31:51,730 --> 02:31:50,091
there interesting it is set up yes you

3769
02:31:53,831 --> 02:31:51,740
should definitely look into some of his

3770
02:31:57,280 --> 02:31:53,841
work because he's fairly controversial

3771
02:32:00,121 --> 02:31:57,290
but he's a genuine scientist somebody I

3772
02:32:02,501 --> 02:32:00,131
believe I think he's Canadian as well

3773
02:32:04,600 --> 02:32:02,511
okay yeah I'll definitely look into him

3774
02:32:07,121 --> 02:32:04,610
I haven't heard of him before but yeah

3775
02:32:09,100 --> 02:32:07,131
if he's doing some research and I'll

3776
02:32:12,041 --> 02:32:09,110
look into it and and see what he's doing

3777
02:32:13,180 --> 02:32:12,051
and and his approach to it and be very

3778
02:32:16,180 --> 02:32:13,190
interesting to see if I can learn

3779
02:32:17,770 --> 02:32:16,190
something if not that's okay but at

3780
02:32:19,001 --> 02:32:17,780
least I can sort of understand more of

3781
02:32:21,310 --> 02:32:19,011
what he's doing what he's trying to

3782
02:32:22,631 --> 02:32:21,320
attempt to do and what he's finding we

3783
02:32:24,011 --> 02:32:22,641
need to go sort of look at the results

3784
02:32:26,470 --> 02:32:24,021
and as I said like I don't know about

3785
02:32:28,990 --> 02:32:26,480
them and probably one way be I don't

3786
02:32:31,541 --> 02:32:29,000
know about because I haven't seen them

3787
02:32:33,581 --> 02:32:31,551
in my social media yet right so we live

3788
02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:33,591
in a different world that you know we

3789
02:32:37,421 --> 02:32:35,450
need to get the information out there to

3790
02:32:39,161 --> 02:32:37,431
really start you know talking about this

3791
02:32:42,430 --> 02:32:39,171
stuff in a new way even when it comes to

3792
02:32:44,350 --> 02:32:42,440
dreams or save religious experiences and

3793
02:32:46,211 --> 02:32:44,360
what the findings are but the sad thing

3794
02:32:47,591 --> 02:32:46,221
is a lot of researchers they they don't

3795
02:32:48,881 --> 02:32:47,601
right cuz it's not really their concern

3796
02:32:50,530 --> 02:32:48,891
the concern is to do the research and

3797
02:32:52,001 --> 02:32:50,540
that's what they spend a lot of time and

3798
02:32:54,310 --> 02:32:52,011
money on and it's a lot of work to do

3799
02:32:56,860 --> 02:32:54,320
this the social media aspect Oh No

3800
02:32:58,451 --> 02:32:56,870
kidding very time-consuming do you think

3801
02:33:00,671 --> 02:32:58,461
that you could your studies could

3802
02:33:04,810 --> 02:33:00,681
benefit from something like a number of

3803
02:33:06,671 --> 02:33:04,820
MRI readouts and so on have you consider

3804
02:33:09,850 --> 02:33:06,681
looking at that approach to compare the

3805
02:33:13,091 --> 02:33:09,860
actual brain conditions of people who

3806
02:33:16,511 --> 02:33:13,101
are experiencing grief no night not yet

3807
02:33:19,511 --> 02:33:16,521
as I said like it's very expensive to do

3808
02:33:21,690 --> 02:33:19,521
studies when it comes to MRIs or sleep

3809
02:33:24,131 --> 02:33:21,700
labs and you need this specific question

3810
02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:24,141
involved with dreaming of the sea so

3811
02:33:28,211 --> 02:33:26,450
it'd be like the problem is 80 most

3812
02:33:29,229 --> 02:33:28,221
people will have a dream at some point

3813
02:33:30,849 --> 02:33:29,239
of life and as

3814
02:33:33,880 --> 02:33:30,859
time goes on they tend to that number

3815
02:33:35,439 --> 02:33:33,890
sort of increases so I have to basically

3816
02:33:37,149 --> 02:33:35,449
find a question I don't know much about

3817
02:33:39,779 --> 02:33:37,159
MRIs so I have to understand sort of

3818
02:33:42,099 --> 02:33:39,789
what it does and how it can relate to

3819
02:33:43,359 --> 02:33:42,109
dreaming of the ceased but yeah like

3820
02:33:44,979 --> 02:33:43,369
it's not out of the question to use

3821
02:33:47,409 --> 02:33:44,989
different technologies to study this

3822
02:33:50,139 --> 02:33:47,419
subject they're very useful and they're

3823
02:33:52,899 --> 02:33:50,149
being used by people to try and answer

3824
02:33:54,399 --> 02:33:52,909
some of these kinds of questions you

3825
02:33:56,380 --> 02:33:54,409
could probably include that in your

3826
02:33:59,739 --> 02:33:56,390
questionnaire as a question have you had

3827
02:34:02,170 --> 02:33:59,749
any reason to have an MRI lately or you

3828
02:34:05,529 --> 02:34:02,180
know have you had any type of other

3829
02:34:06,880 --> 02:34:05,539
psychological evaluation done and if you

3830
02:34:09,399 --> 02:34:06,890
could get their permission then if

3831
02:34:11,889 --> 02:34:09,409
you've got people who have had those

3832
02:34:13,269 --> 02:34:11,899
kind of tests done to get hold of those

3833
02:34:15,399 --> 02:34:13,279
tests and that could reduce a lot of

3834
02:34:18,579 --> 02:34:15,409
your expenses and provide you with some

3835
02:34:21,929 --> 02:34:18,589
actual hard scientific data to compare

3836
02:34:24,699 --> 02:34:21,939
against us you know a so-called baseline

3837
02:34:26,139 --> 02:34:24,709
control group yeah you have to catch it

3838
02:34:29,050 --> 02:34:26,149
to like it has to be after they've lost

3839
02:34:31,929 --> 02:34:29,060
their loved one and yeah like tom is a

3840
02:34:33,760 --> 02:34:31,939
huge factor I like when it's done and if

3841
02:34:35,739 --> 02:34:33,770
it's more in a controlled setting it's

3842
02:34:37,389 --> 02:34:35,749
hard to just collect the dad that day

3843
02:34:38,859 --> 02:34:37,399
give you know you'd have to actually I

3844
02:34:40,749 --> 02:34:38,869
think put them yourself get the

3845
02:34:41,319 --> 02:34:40,759
questionnaires done and run them like

3846
02:34:43,389 --> 02:34:41,329
together

3847
02:34:44,889 --> 02:34:43,399
so at the time as you know time is a big

3848
02:34:47,079 --> 02:34:44,899
like it's important when it comes to

3849
02:34:49,179 --> 02:34:47,089
sort of collecting scientific data but

3850
02:34:52,029 --> 02:34:49,189
yeah I think there is something there

3851
02:34:54,340 --> 02:34:52,039
and the more we technology grows rightly

3852
02:34:56,800 --> 02:34:54,350
just continues to grow hopefully we can

3853
02:34:58,989 --> 02:34:56,810
use that as a way to understand this

3854
02:35:00,969 --> 02:34:58,999
phenomena and understanding all sorts of

3855
02:35:02,979 --> 02:35:00,979
sort of paranormal experiences to a new

3856
02:35:04,300 --> 02:35:02,989
degree and that's what I'm exciting with

3857
02:35:06,130 --> 02:35:04,310
what's you know it's all coming out

3858
02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:06,140
because it's allowing us to research

3859
02:35:10,899 --> 02:35:08,930
different areas more effectively so you

3860
02:35:13,539 --> 02:35:10,909
don't dismiss obviously the possibility

3861
02:35:16,139 --> 02:35:13,549
that all these dreams are genuine that

3862
02:35:18,819 --> 02:35:16,149
people are having some kind of encounter

3863
02:35:21,760 --> 02:35:18,829
subconsciously with the dead loved one

3864
02:35:24,369 --> 02:35:21,770
or whoever is there again that these

3865
02:35:27,670 --> 02:35:24,379
experiences these dreams represent a

3866
02:35:30,639 --> 02:35:27,680
reality of some sort it's not just your

3867
02:35:32,499 --> 02:35:30,649
subconscious making up something you're

3868
02:35:34,989 --> 02:35:32,509
really interacting with some outside

3869
02:35:37,719 --> 02:35:34,999
force possibly as I said the dead

3870
02:35:40,381 --> 02:35:37,729
relative possibly just an external force

3871
02:35:42,631 --> 02:35:40,391
something that I kind of brought up at

3872
02:35:44,761 --> 02:35:42,641
the early part of the show yeah I'm not

3873
02:35:47,190 --> 02:35:44,771
against that approach and said we can't

3874
02:35:49,140 --> 02:35:47,200
test it and people always asked people

3875
02:35:51,690 --> 02:35:49,150
is code to ask is this a visitation

3876
02:35:53,551 --> 02:35:51,700
dream I'm like I can't tell you that

3877
02:35:55,951 --> 02:35:53,561
I go what does it feel like to you and

3878
02:35:57,871 --> 02:35:55,961
then we can go with that but I said

3879
02:36:00,810 --> 02:35:57,881
unless I can talk to the deceased to let

3880
02:36:02,251 --> 02:36:00,820
them to ask them and and say hey were

3881
02:36:04,770 --> 02:36:02,261
you in this dream at this time with this

3882
02:36:06,751 --> 02:36:04,780
day we can't do that yet all we have is

3883
02:36:08,491 --> 02:36:06,761
a person sort of personal experience

3884
02:36:10,381 --> 02:36:08,501
with the dream so I can't deny the

3885
02:36:11,821 --> 02:36:10,391
experience but we just can't test it

3886
02:36:14,581 --> 02:36:11,831
scientifically so I'm not against it

3887
02:36:17,371 --> 02:36:14,591
though what you can obviously test is

3888
02:36:19,741 --> 02:36:17,381
whether someone has a dream and somebody

3889
02:36:21,140 --> 02:36:19,751
dies the next day of course you can't do

3890
02:36:24,600 --> 02:36:21,150
it when they tell you 10 years later

3891
02:36:26,071 --> 02:36:24,610
right yeah but once it happens mm-hmm

3892
02:36:27,781 --> 02:36:26,081
but you'd have to be like you have to

3893
02:36:29,310 --> 02:36:27,791
catch that I guess once the information

3894
02:36:30,781 --> 02:36:29,320
gets out there more people have these

3895
02:36:33,511 --> 02:36:30,791
experiences they can give it to you

3896
02:36:35,821 --> 02:36:33,521
right away like if I had like a study

3897
02:36:37,230 --> 02:36:35,831
and going on collecting people's

3898
02:36:39,571 --> 02:36:37,240
premonition dreams that you're talking

3899
02:36:41,100 --> 02:36:39,581
about of you know when the deceased died

3900
02:36:43,201 --> 02:36:41,110
soon after is to get those right away

3901
02:36:45,961 --> 02:36:43,211
and people send those to me that's

3902
02:36:47,430 --> 02:36:45,971
probably the easiest way to do that but

3903
02:36:49,020 --> 02:36:47,440
then you just need funding and you know

3904
02:36:50,881 --> 02:36:49,030
all that sort of set up ahead of time

3905
02:36:52,680 --> 02:36:50,891
but yeah it's not out of the question

3906
02:36:54,991 --> 02:36:52,690
you need the the time and you need

3907
02:36:57,541 --> 02:36:55,001
people to know that you're doing the

3908
02:36:59,730 --> 02:36:57,551
work can you tell our listeners if they

3909
02:37:01,980 --> 02:36:59,740
have more interest in what you're

3910
02:37:03,810 --> 02:37:01,990
studying where can they check out your

3911
02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:03,820
site and how do they get in touch with

3912
02:37:07,801 --> 02:37:05,200
you okay

3913
02:37:10,650 --> 02:37:07,811
hey so yeah you can go to grief dreams

3914
02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:10,660
dot CA and on there you can find links

3915
02:37:14,821 --> 02:37:12,730
all sorts of stuff I have you know my

3916
02:37:16,411 --> 02:37:14,831
contact is on there different research

3917
02:37:18,241 --> 02:37:16,421
articles different things that we talked

3918
02:37:20,761 --> 02:37:18,251
about today on the show different themes

3919
02:37:22,921 --> 02:37:20,771
and content is also on there if the in

3920
02:37:25,020 --> 02:37:22,931
my Instagram page at grief dreams same

3921
02:37:26,791 --> 02:37:25,030
things about Twitter at grief dreams you

3922
02:37:28,951 --> 02:37:26,801
have the grief Dreams Facebook group and

3923
02:37:30,480 --> 02:37:28,961
there there's hundreds of dreams people

3924
02:37:32,821 --> 02:37:30,490
have shared and so feel free to go on

3925
02:37:34,621 --> 02:37:32,831
there read about them even post your own

3926
02:37:36,091 --> 02:37:34,631
we always love having that then also

3927
02:37:37,711 --> 02:37:36,101
have the grief Dreams podcast so if you

3928
02:37:40,161 --> 02:37:37,721
like hearing more about the subject you

3929
02:37:42,810 --> 02:37:40,171
know come listen to to me try to

3930
02:37:44,551 --> 02:37:42,820
interview people on the other end of

3931
02:37:45,751 --> 02:37:44,561
this and they have their own dream some

3932
02:37:47,071 --> 02:37:45,761
people have positive ones and other

3933
02:37:48,600 --> 02:37:47,081
people have negative one so but

3934
02:37:51,390 --> 02:37:48,610
everything can be found at grief dreams

3935
02:37:53,040 --> 02:37:51,400
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02:37:55,649 --> 02:37:53,050
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3952
02:38:31,139 --> 02:38:29,920
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3953
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3954
02:38:36,090 --> 02:38:33,369
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3955
02:38:37,559 --> 02:38:36,100
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3956
02:38:39,149 --> 02:38:37,569
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